This came to me after watching Greydon Clark’s interview for the “Final Justice” DVD. I still can’t believe he suggested that MST3K riff on ALL the films he produced. However, since he did…
Which producer from the following list would you say made the worst films? Also If Cinematic Titanic and/or Rifftrax were going to riff on all of the films of one producer, which would you pick?
[Chris has thoughtfully provided IMDB links for each choice.]• Charles Band.
• Greydon Clark.
• Roger Corman.
• Coleman Francis.
• Charles B. Pierce.
• Menahem Golan & Yoram Globus.
• Robert L. Lippert.
• Max Rosenberg.
• Jam Handy Organization.
• Bert I. Gordon.
• Samuel M. “The Oozing Skull” and “East Meets Watts” Sherman.FWIW I know MST3K riffed on all the films Coleman Francis produced but I thought I’d add him more for the first question than the second.
One last thing: I know I could’ve put Ed Wood and Ray Dennis Steckler on the list but I decided to leave them out and give the others a chance.
It was a tough decision for the final four, but I decided to go with a lesser known producer like Max Rosenberg (who was involved in the productions of “The Deadly Bees” and “The Incredible Melting Man”) over somebody worse like Rick Sloane or somebody more talented and famous like Dino De Laurentiis (of “Diabolik.”)
For question 1, I think Charles Band wins, or, rather, loses hands down.
For question 2, I think I’ll pick Samuel Sherman.
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Corman for both. Usually technically sound as a director, but the cheap quickie atmosphere is all too obvious, making for great riffing. His current wastes of celluloid need to be taken down.
I actually like Band, Full Moon used to be a serious franchise with some great films, ‘Pit and the Pendulem’, ‘Doctor Mordrid,’ and ‘Castle Freak’ are particulary good, and the others are typically solid time killers. Lately, there have been some turkeys.
MSTchronicity: Last night my local midnight horror movie program (Creepy KOFY Movie Time) aired Ted V. Mikels’ The Corpse Grinders (screenplay by Arch Hall Sr.!). Goofy and low-rent, kinda like H.G. Lewis but with less gore. Right up CT’s alley.
A tie between Coleman and Sam Sherman for worst output.
Though I would love to see more riffs on Sherman’s work, I’ll go with Pierce. Mainly because I just adore his masterpiece The Norseman (I have a copy) and I’m dying to see it riffed.
I should have posted this on last weekend’s discussion but I saw Norseman when it came out way back then and my friend and I could not stop riffing on it (this was long before MST). A man in front of us told us to shut the hell up and that cracked us up even more. Just that someone could take something like that seriously…well.
BTW if I had to send Sampo the list again I probably would’ve added Tony Cardoza and Ted V. Mikels to it but I thought those 11 would be enough. Nice to see those 2 & other producers get mentioned in this thread too.
I didn’t add Michael Bay because MSTEK never riffed on any of his films during their orig. series run and I was only going with producers who MST3K had already riffed on for the list. And yes I know that Samuel Sherman was never riffed on MST either but I thought his film prod. work went well next to the other choices.
And finally FYI the list was orig. 12 choices but Sampo pulled one from the list because he was more of a distributor than an actual producer.
The name of that person? OKAY EVERYBODY ON 1, 2, 3, 4 “Sandy Frank!, Sandy Frank! sleeps around the house all dayyyyyyyyyy…..!”
Did I get that last bit of the lyric right? :smile:
And I’m actually cool with Sampo’s decision to remove Mr. Frank from the list too, fwiw.
I’ll jump on the Coleman Francis bandwagon for question 1 (mainly because a certain fertilizer salesman from El Paso isn’t on the list).
For question 2 I’ll have to go with Bert I. Gordon because he worked well with what he had and, for the time and on the budgets he had, his effects are actually pretty impressive. A lot of his films are fun to watch even without the riffing. Though the “heart is a single cell” schlock* in Amazing Colossal Man is probably his biggest strike.
* Although that isn’t the worst of the pseudo-science in the series.
Love his movies or hate ’em, Charles Band is really great to his fans, and truly funny. If you get a chance to check out his “Full Moon Road Show” you won’t regret it.
I think MST covered the infamous Coleman Francis quite well, and if they tackle all of Roger Corman’s films, we’ll be here until 2270. So, I’ll go with one you guys missed: Al Adamson. Please guys, you have GOT to do “Dracula vs. Frankenstein.” IMDB also lists a film called “Dr Dracula.”
Then of course, we can do a Joe Don Baker Festival of PAIN!
I’d love to see them tackle some Golan Globus films. They are rich fodder for anyone willing to take them on. The 80’s Hercules movies are just begging to be riffed. :mrgreen:
No love for William “One-Take” Beaudine? Between his double feature of “westerns meet public domain monsters” and a gazillion Charlie Chan films, he’d have a pretty good selection.
Honestly, I would go with Roger Corman. His films, as much as people might say otherwise, are the good kind of bad. I’d also go with Jam Handy for the shorts (because of all of their sponsored films), but I’d also suggest Centron, because their stuff was so darn earnest.
For Kali @ #57:
BTW if you check Samuel M. Sherman’s link on the list you’ll quickly discover that he was Al Adamson’s co-producer. ;-)
Okay. Just don’t deny that the guys have to do “Dracula vs. Frankenstein. :twisted:
Question #1 – Coleman Francis – the worst by far. The others are bad, sure, but Francis’ movies were a double threat. Not only were they horrible from a production standpoint, they were so depressing and pointless that you got pulled into a serious bout of existentialist angst.
Question #2 – Roger Corman. And he got an honorary Oscar for them this year, which makes them even funnier.
Uwe Boll deserves a dishonorable mention, but then the films would probably kill our faithful riffers… ;-)
So, we’ll stay with Roland Emerich.
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