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Wow, I was just wondering about if or when they were going to this one. They definitely need to.
They especially need to destroy the mind-bogglingly weak plot premises. The lack thereof would be disappointing.
I liked this movie and I’m gonna like watching them riff it up.
I can honestly say that they can not be too mean in their treatment of this crapfest. Oddly I find the movie somewhat enjoyable on as a popcorn action movie. The problem is Star Trek shouldn’t be a popcorn action movie, ever.
Star Trek XI: the Search For a New Demographic. Can’t wait to see the Rifftrax take on this one.
And even though he wasn’t in this one, I hope they don’t skimp on the Shatner jokes.
THAT’S the acid test. Do the guys still have it? Will they rip Shatner?
Oh wow. The Onion encapsulated Colossus Prime perfectly.
As a trekkie who loves one half of Trek and hates the other, I find this movie disappointing. It’s not that taking it in a new direction wasn’t a bad idea, but the new direction was just so underwhelming and forgetful.
I just loath the idea of turning Trek into a passable action flick that won’t slow down for character development sake. I find it funny how the writers use “The Wrath of Khan” as a base line on what makes a good Trek. Unfortunately they seem to have forgotten that..
A. It was hardly an action movie
B. It had a cadence (took it’s time)
C. Kirk was not always right about his methods
D. The writer’s idea for character development didn’t stem from constant arguing and bickering with one another
E. It had female characters that actually did something useful
F. There wasn’t any GODDA** PRODUCT PLACEMENT!!!
Is it just me or does Mike with a Spock haircut look an awful lot like Paul?
Not sure how I feel about this. Sure, the new movie isn’t perfect, but it’s easily the most enjoyable Trek movie ever made. (And that’s speaking as a genuine, if not exactly proud, Trekkie.) I bet the riffmasters really miss the Shatster.
#8, I agree with you. Mike does look a lot like Paul on the cover. I saw this movie during its first two weeks in theaters. Hopefully I can sweet-talk my parents (i’m 19) into getting me the RiffTrax version. It’s probably great!
Oh if only they could have gotten Shatner to guest riff. :cry:
Phew. God knows this movie deserves all the disrespect it can get. Not that it’s bad, exactly, but it definitely is ridiculous–two hours of the kids dressing up in their daddies’ uniforms and pretending to be space captains, only to have the movie actually *make* them space captains at the end.
But it is entertaining in its stupidity, making it prime Rifftrax materia.
#8 you are an idiot. It may not be the worst Trek, but it certainly was not the best either.
#12 – I never said it was the best Trek. I said it was “easily the most enjoyable Trek movie ever made.” Maybe it’s not as good as your memories of Wrath of Khan, but I’ve seen the new Trek 3 times and thoroughly enjoyed it, plot contrivances and all.
Also, I’ve never called a fellow MSTie an idiot.
As far as sci-fi action with a thin plot goes, this Star Trek movie is far better than the Transformers movies. It was written by the same writing team that wrote Transformers 1 and 2. If one is going to make something new out of something old, this is the way to do it. Unlike Michael Bay and his team of douchebag producers.
He’s not an idiot for his opinion. Also, he’s close to right (my opinion). Are we really picking apart the plot? Plots are not what Trek is about. I anxiously await the riffing!
Ahhh, yes. Jim Henson’s Star Trek Babies. Despite its issues I enjoyed this movie (especially Zachary Quinto and of course Leonard Nimoy). My main two problems with it were the typical stupid movie moments of “Hey, stupid mainstream audience people! Isn’t this part funny?! You’re all in a theater so laugh at this stupid part together on cue like a sitcom just as the scene occurs!” And by that, I mean the moronic scenes Kirk trying to talk with giant puffy lips and baloon hands (it was like a bad SNL skit) and Scotty’s creepy little alien companion who makes a puppy whimper coupled with a simpy cartoon close up on its face when told to “Get offa there!” by Pegg. Parts like that really kept the movie from feeling like a serious reboot. Oh and *spoiler* Spock’s “Do what feels right” line to Quinto at the end was nothing any good Vulcan or person with common sense should present as balanced advice. So yeah, looking forward to this RT.
What’s this pedantry about there being some kind of difference between “most enjoyable” and “best”? If it is not the best film how could it possibly be the “most enjoyable”? I really hate this idea that has permeated our society where to so many people enjoyment often requires you to not think. If I hear someone say something like “it’s a ‘popcorn’ movie, you just turn your brain off and enjoy it” I know that what they are really saying is “the people making it were too lazy to try to make a truly good film, and you have to either be an idiot, or force yourself to ignore the films MASSIVE flaws in order to even mildly enjoy it”. I know this because those same people won’t use the term “popcorn movie” to describe a big actiony blockbuster movie that is actually good. And they won’t even use it to describe “dumb” movies that are very self aware. Total Recall is a big dumb movie, but it is fun because it was made by people who were fully aware of what they were doing, and they were making a big dumb movie. Is anyone who liked this Star Trek movie willing to say it is just a big dumb movie that you should take as seriously as a Looney Tunes cartoon? I haven’t heard any talk like that. I also love a lot of what could be called “simple” movies, but there are huge differences between a “simple” movie and a poorly made movie. Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Road Warrior are simple films that are also two of my favorites. But they are far from being as highly flawed and ineptly made as most of what people would call “popcorn” movies today. They are still very intelligent films with very well conceived and executed stories that actually work without requiring you to ignore their gigantic plot holes. Their flaws, if any, lie mostly in the limited budgets or effects technology they had to deal with. Star Trek 2009 had no such problems. It’s flaws lie mostly in the incompetence and/or indifference of it’s makers. It has gigantic plot holes, painfully obvious and convenient “magic wand” devices (“trans-warp beaming”, and that Red Matter B.S. to name two), and idiotic scenes such as “Mountain Dew Presents X-treme Space Skydiving!!!” and “big snow monsters chasing Kirk around!”. That is because making that kind of average, basic, formulaic crappy nonsense movie was good enough for someone who wasn’t willing to try to do any more than that because they knew enough people would swallow it whether they are smart enough to really know better. It might sound kind of melodramatic, but it really is an insult to the forty year history of real Star Trek that, more often than not, at least tried to be something more than just an average brainless Hollywood factory product. Even Voyager, the laziest and most formulaic of the Star Trek television series, attempted to retain some of what really made Star Trek what it was. Sure it failed most of the time, but unlike this movie it actually tried.
What you fail to consider is those big hits of yesteryear would NOT succeed today. The reason “popcorn movies” require you to turn your brain off is because they are made for the masses, and if you’ve watched any 24 hr opinion networks lately you’ll see the masses have their brains off permanently. America is run by and inhabited by iditos. So, if you want a Star Trek film, or any film for that matter, to make over $100m, it better be understandable and enjoyable to your average drunk. If you can stick stuff in there that makes it appeal to the sober, you’re doing great. However, few writers/directors are up to that task.
Heh, then I made a typo on “idiots”. :lol:
It was ok. I saw it in the theater but I wouldnt say I had any more of a “ride” as say First Contact. Or several of the earlier films. Thing is, why do they have to rehash the same type of revenge villain over and over? and does it even Need a “villain”? The only memorable thing about him was the fact that he was raised by an alien race of Ron Pearlmans. Oh wait, the was the guy in Nemesis.
To #17: Word, Uncle Bill. You have very precisely articulated many of my thoughts re this disaster of a film that ruined my graduation weekend (with all kinds of family in town for my nursing school graduation, we [long-time multi-generational Trek lovers, all] gleefully worked in a group movie experience that left each of us with a very bad taste in our mouths). ITA with your comments, particularly “gigantic plot holes” and “painfully obvious and convenient “magic wand” devices.”
I was floored by the reference to “Admiral Archer and his prized beagle.” I mean, I knew they were decanonizing TOS and the later shows but I wasn’t expecting them to canonized Enterprise.
This is the greatest movie not to have a plot or a much of a villian.
Why did they build the Enterprise on Earth? I don’t care if I can use anti-gravity propulsion. It just seems like a completely impractical idea to build several hundred tons of spaceship on Earth. (I’m not sure what the Enterprise weighs, but I’m guessing it’s a lot.)
Wow, we got some serious hate for this movie here. :shock:
I actually enjoyed the film in spite of all of the faults (percieved and factual). I had hoped that it woudln’t be as much of an action movie as it turned out to be, but I hold out hope that if they make another film it will focus a little more on themes and ideas and less on explosions. But I’m not holding my breath. :wink:
I know Mike, Bill and Kevin will do a great job with this one. And I look forward to seeing the movie again with and without the riffing.
And for the record I enjoy TOS and most of the movies with the original cast. I also think Trek was in need of jump start, and I think this movie may have given it that jump start. Will it tarnish the franchise? I reserve my judgement to see where they go from here. Starting (or re-starting) is always tricky business. Once you get the set up out of the way you are free to have fun – and thats where we’ll find out if they go action before ideas or not.
Yes…I know how you trekkies feel…I felt the same way when the Matt LeBlanc “Lost in Space” came out. How could they have sacrificed the dignity of the original “Lost in Space” TV series with that mindless clap-trap!?!?! Those bubble-headed ninnies!
Got to go with the haters on this one, I was extremely disappointed with this movie. It just plain didn’t feel like Star Trek at all, as others have said, the plot was full of holes and there was no character development at all. Admittedly I am a cranky old Trekkie who thought everything after TOS had a good episode percentage of about 30%, but like someone else said earlier, at least even the bad shows like Voyager tried. Unfortunately since it did so well I’m sure the next one will be more of the same but I don’t plan to attend.
#11 had it right, prime rifftrax material. This movie is not great, but entertaining enough to be watchable. Kind of like when MST did a “bigger” movie like Clonus or Marooned. IMO First Contact, Undiscovered Country, Voyage Home, Search for Spock and Wrath of Kahn are all superior to this movie in all aspects.
I was ready to like the reboot. I wanted to like it. And I don’t hate it, exactly, but I do hate some of the choices they made with it. It almost would have been better if they disregarded the canon altogether and lets the trekkies internally combust rather than use the alternate reality ploy like they did, which didn’t make anyone happy that I know of. As disposable as it would make the first movie, I wish they’d find a way to reset the timeline at the beginning of the next one. And they should have opted for a television show, even a limited HBO one. I don’t think the movies are going to get very far before the cast starts falling out.
The cannon is garbage, anyway, Try explaining how any of the original episodes fit into it. Go ahead, pick one.
And that was a typo.
I’ve been a Trek fan for all of my 35 years and I enjoyed this film immensely.
IDIC, people. IDIC.
If anyone was wondering how they could riff this one so close to the DVD release, I’ve got pretty substantial proof they get advance copies of some films. Kevin’s Twitter account says he’s “Down Under” for three weeks and he left 9 days ago. So, since he’s on this Rifftrax, they must have recorded it a while back.
Remember people, this is just Star Trek, not a way of life!!
My two cents: Movie was better than expected, Rifftrax version should be a lot of fun!!
“What’s this pedantry about there being some kind of difference between “most enjoyable” and “best”?”
There’s nothing pedantic about it. To me, it’s a clear and obvious distinction. The better thing isn’t always the thing I enjoy more.
For instance, “Awakenings” is a really good movie. I’ve seen it and I liked it and I thought it was really well done. But I will never see it again, since it’s not the kind of movie I have a great desire to see.
Then let’s take a clearly badly made film: “Plan 9 From Outer Space”. It’s one of my favorites. I watch it all the time. I recognize its flaws, yet celebrate its spirit.
To use an example similar to yours, I think that the new “Star Trek” is a better made film overall than “Star Trek V”. Shatner didn’t have what it took to direct a theatrical release, he had a light plot, bad, forced humor and a miniscule and poorly utilized effects budget. The new film is all kinds of lousy, but it looks good. The direction is mostly solid and the story and characterizations are certainly no worse than “STV”.
So, on a quality scale, “ST ’09” wins out over “STV”. But I appreciate that despite all its failings, “STV” is *trying* to tell a good story, to stay true to the characters and universe that I have enjoyed all these years. So I watch and enjoy the bits of good in “Star Trek V”, yet all the flash in the world won’t make me watch “Star Trek ’09” again.
So, yes, there *is* a difference between “most enjoyable” and “best”. At least for me.
hey I reconize Bill, kevin and Mike. But Who is guy in red shirt that is all blown up who kinda looks like Joey Fatone from Nsync? I don’t reconize him at all from MST3k or Rifftraxts. IS he a guest riffer? If so they didn’t make any mentions on the poster.
Just wondering.Though if they did Joey Fatone from Nsync I would be ok with that.
“if they did Joey Fatone from Nsync”
ewww.
#34: “hey I reconize Bill, kevin and Mike. But Who is guy in red shirt that is all blown up who kinda looks like Joey Fatone from Nsync? I don’t reconize him at all from MST3k or Rifftraxts. IS he a guest riffer? If so they didn’t make any mentions on the poster.”
The guy in the red shirt is the Rifftrax poster designer, Jason Martian.
To all of your ranting about how this movie destroyed the sanctity and histroy of the original, you do realize you are talking about star trek, which was a campy but fun sci-fi show turned into a series of campy but fun movies. Also to call people idiots for enjoying this movie just proves how over the top your taking this.
I have never cared about the status of Star Trek’s franchise. They can play with the cannon all they want (until someone loses an eye.) But the movie was really, really weak on acting and plot. Simon Pegg’s little bits were dumb and he still was the most interesting, well acted character. It felt like a sit com half the time and the other half like someone’s OTT fanfic. And then Kirk met Uhura in a bar, and then he met Bones on the transport and then one time at Vulcan bandcamp…
Oh and the Riffing was phenomenal at times: maybe we are all gay!
I paid $20.00 for that at Wal-Mart and thought I was getting a good movie.
Is anyone familiar with the Internet folks who re-edit movies in order to improve them? I may just do that with Star Trek. First thing to go is that stupidity with Scottie in the water-tube thing.
When I saw Spock is his little ship attacking whatever he was doing I began to get seriously fatigued. Also I wonder why they didn’t call security when old Spock was loitering near the shuttles.
This movie NEEDS the rifftrax treatment, I havent seen it yet, haveing seen the clip Im so happy to have missed it. I really feel like I dodged a bullet.
star trek V was a fine film, as for Shatner and his directing, I think he did all right, I mean it’s bill shatner you would think it would look terrible from a directing stand point.
I thought the spechial effects were just as good as any of the other origonal films.
(im not a huge star trek fan)
But I cant support this new movie, it’s got all different actors and it dosnt look like a star trek movie, it looks like “hollywood action movie number A with cookie cutter plot C and ultramega computer created everything”
basicly they had 500,000,000 budget and spent 80% on spechial effects, 5% on writting, 10% on forgettable actors, and 5% on trying to convince everyone that the movie they were making was a star trek movie.
“lets see, shatner, shatner, shatner… nope were safe it looks like hes not in this one”
Reifftrax is doing “Maniac” http://www.rifftrax.com/ondemand/maniac
Jim Henson’s Star Trek Babies.