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Cracking the ‘Susan Hart Code’?

I have no idea how reliable this rumor is but,

I heard through a very good source that one of our favorite boutique labels is about to crack the Susan Hart code and all the films should be restored and released next year.

Susan Hart now owns the rights to 11 movies made by her late husband, James H. Nicholson’s company: It Conquered the World (1956) and its 1966 remake Zontar, The Thing from Venus, Invasion of the Saucer Men (1957) and its 1965 remake The Eye Creatures, I Was a Teenage Frankenstein (1957), I Was a Teenage Werewolf (1957), The Amazing Colossal Man (1957), Terror from the Year 5000 (1958), Apache Woman (1955), The Oklahoma Woman (1956) and Naked Paradise (1957).

Bolded films were used for MST3K episodes and those eps were thought to be unreleasable.

If these are released, can MST3K eps be far behind?

Thanks to Tim for the heads up.

29 Replies to “Cracking the ‘Susan Hart Code’?”

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  1. eegah says:

    Oh please oh please oh please!

    It Conquered the World is one of my favorites, and the traded copy is icky.

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  2. CaptainSpam says:

    Oh, wow. If this is true, I wonder what sorts of interviews/special features we’d be getting from good ol’ Ballyhoo. Like, I seriously doubt there’d be any mention of Susan Hart, but still…

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  3. If it is, we just have to worry about whether Shout is still paying attention. They’d probably be the third-party company to release the non-MST’ed versions, which means there’d be four or five for a boxset (unless Kino or weaselly Olive rushes in to grab the cheaper titles).
    But that’s assuming that Shout hasn’t simply sighed, turned their back, and given up hope of ever releasing the “rest” of the new sets, alongside the current repackaging of the early sets.

    (Just off-topic: I’d recently gotten the, to date, “last” repackaged Shout set of the Singles, which was in a nice, simple regular multi-DVD case, unlike the classic fold-out boxes of Rhino’s day. I haven’t had any need to buy Shout’s re-issued versions of the past sets, are they also in regular cases, or the old boxes?)

    CaptainSpam:
    Oh, wow.If this is true, I wonder what sorts of interviews/special features we’d be getting from good ol’ Ballyhoo.Like, I seriously doubt there’d be any mention of Susan Hart, but still…

    If–and that’s IF–we get Eye Creatures, with or without Saucer Men, the Larry Buchanan Story needs to be told.

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  4. Lawgiver says:

    The Original EricJ:
    If it is, we just have to worry about whether Shout is still paying attention.They’d probably be the third-party company to release the non-MST’ed versions, which means there’d be four or five for a boxset (unless Kino or weaselly Olive rushes in to grab the cheaper titles).
    But that’s assuming that Shout hasn’t simply sighed, turned their back, and given up hope of ever releasing the “rest” of the new sets, alongside the current repackaging of the early sets.

    Until I saw this, I assumed the above-mentioned “favorite boutique label” was referring to Shout. So now I’m wondering to what it is referring?

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  5. mst3kme says:

    I had the official VHS copy of “The Amazing Colossal Man“ years ago.

    As we all know from the “Godzilla” MST3K episodes, rights can be a tricky matter.

    Hope things work out well.

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  6. You left out an important part part of this rumor. Where the original rumor started, the poster answered a follow-up question and said it was between Shout and Kino. So there’s even more uncertainty.

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  7. Scott Strong says:

    I’d love to have 807- Terror from the Year 5000 and 809- I was a Teenage Werewolf. Here’s hoping this is true. The only copies I have were courtesy of Cheesyflix and they’re getting up in age.

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  8. profhackenbush says:

    If this happens,which is a big IF,having those 5 MST3K episodes on one box set,it would be the box set to end all box sets,but just have to wait and see..It would be really nice..THE perfect gift for all MSTies..Let’s hope this happens….

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  9. John Paradox says:

    I recently pulled a LOT of VHS and found the Amazing Colossal Man tape among the MST3K set. I have also been taking old VHS tapes and running them to computer video files, and was going to trade/sell many of the commercial tapes. I think I will cut down on which tapes I’ll get rid of

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  10. Lawgiver says:

    testing…

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  11. Master Ninja 2 says:

    The Original EricJ:
    If it is, we just have to worry about whether Shout is still paying attention.They’d probably be the third-party company to release the non-MST’ed versions, which means there’d be four or five for a boxset (unless Kino or weaselly Olive rushes in to grab the cheaper titles).
    But that’s assuming that Shout hasn’t simply sighed, turned their back, and given up hope of ever releasing the “rest” of the new sets, alongside the current repackaging of the early sets.

    (Just off-topic:I’d recently gotten the, to date, “last” repackaged Shout set of the Singles, which was in a nice, simple regular multi-DVD case, unlike the classic fold-out boxes of Rhino’s day.I haven’t had any need to buy Shout’s re-issued versions of the past sets, are they also in regular cases, or the old boxes?)

    If–and that’s IF–we get Eye Creatures, with or without Saucer Men, the Larry Buchanan Story needs to be told.

    The Shout! Re-Issues of Vol 1-12 are in a case the size of a regular dvd case, and has two flaps inside that house the four discs snugly in their own sides

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  12. Grokenstein says:

    While I would love to have best-possible versions of the MST3K riffs, getting the movies themselves out there on (legit) DVD and BD would be the real grand prize.

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  13. nomad says:

    IF it’s Shout, then hopefully they will waste no time with this and start by re-releasing The Amazing Colossal Man as a single, then release the other 4 in a new box-set volume. It would be a perfect fit, too: 2 episodes with Joel, 2 episodes with Mike.

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  14. Terry the Sensitive Knight says:

    Terror From the Year 5000 is the episode that made me a MSTie

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  15. Colossus Prime says:

    I do feel like I have been waiting forever for The Terror.

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  16. Ray Dunakin says:

    Wow, I sure hope this pans out and we finally get those eps on DVD!

    Assuming we do get these, what’s left? The two Godzilla movies and “Quest of the Delta Knights”, right? Anything else?

    I’m still holding out hope that someday they’ll get the rights to those, especially “Quest”. But “Quest” might be the most difficult, since apparently no one’s been able to nail down exactly who owns the rights.

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  17. Grokenstein says:

    Shout very recently uploaded a clip from Quest of the Delta Knights to YouTube, which had a few viewers speculating.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO5oHWwPOCQ

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  18. michaelkz says:

    Ray Dunakin:
    Wow, I sure hope this pans out and we finally get those eps on DVD!

    Assuming we do get these, what’s left? The two Godzilla movies and “Quest of the Delta Knights”, right? Anything else?

    I’m still holding out hope that someday they’ll get the rights to those, especially “Quest”. But “Quest” might be the most difficult, since apparently no one’s been able to nail down exactly who owns the rights.

    Shout should release the episode on DVD and see who comes out of the woodwork.

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  19. claybone says:

    Ray Dunakin:
    Assuming we do get these, what’s left? The two Godzilla movies and “Quest of the Delta Knights”, right? Anything else?

    Ep #201 Rocketship X-M
    Ep #416 Fire Maidens from Outer Space
    Ep #905 The Deadly Bees
    Ep #906 The Space Children

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  20. Grokenstein:
    Shout very recently uploaded a clip from Quest of the Delta Knights to YouTube, which had a few viewers speculating.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO5oHWwPOCQ

    Hmm… good catch. Does anybody know whether or not Shout typically puts up clips on Youtube from any of the other MST3K titles that they don’t have the rights secured for? …if not, I’d half to surmise that something almost has to be in the works for (at least) Delta Knights, otherwise they likely wouldn’t have put that up.

    Fortunately, over time I acquired good copies of all of the old episodes, but it would be fantastic to see ’em all get the proper Shout treatment …especially Attack of the (the) Eye Creatures!!!

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  21. …er, nevermind. I just answered my own question …checked the MST YT channel, and yeah, they have clips from Fire Maidens, Rocketship XM, Eye Creatures, etc …so I guess the presence of a Delta Knights clip isn’t a harbinger of impending Shout releases.

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  22. Kali says:

    Guess someone finally met her price. No way she’s going to approve what she would consider a b@stardized version of her movies, but then, we said that about the Gamera films….

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  23. DiscoJer says:

    Invasion of the Saucer Men, although not riffed, is actually a pretty good movie, somewhat in the vein of The Blob, featuring the antics of 1950s kids. The remake really sucked out all the life and charm out of the movie and added a lot of unpleasantness..

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  24. DiscoJer:
    Invasion of the Saucer Men, although not riffed, is actually a pretty good movie, somewhat in the vein of The Blob, featuring the antics of 1950s kids. The remake really sucked out all the life and charm out of the movie and added a lot of unpleasantness..

    Saw the original Saucer Men with an all-night audience, and the fact that the original was deliberately trying to be tongue-in-cheek took us by fun surprise. :)
    The “They don’t believe us because we’re teenagers!” is supposed to be the main grab of the movie, the titular Saucer Men look like the standard Mars-Attacks “little green men” cliche’, and what would be the drifter in the sheath dress from Eye Creatures is here the town drunk, who survives the alien’s weapon of attacking with deadly alcohol. (Which is why the police think our misunderstood teen heroes have been drinking.)

    Larry Buchanan, of course, kept only remaining bits and pieces of the plot points in his version, so he could downstage them to completely unnoticeable, and make it look like the actors were making the movie up as they went along.

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  25. Jason says:

    “I do feel like I have been waiting forever for The Terror.”

    The Corman movie starring Boris Karloff and Jack Nicholson that was filmed in like four days?

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  26. Lawgiver says:

    Jason:
    “I do feel like I have been waiting forever for The Terror.”

    The Corman movie starring Boris Karloff and Jack Nicholson that was filmed in like four days?

    I think he meant “Terror From the Year 5000”.

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  27. Colossus Prime says:

    Jason:
    “I do feel like I have been waiting forever for The Terror.”

    The Corman movie starring Boris Karloff and Jack Nicholson that was filmed in like four days?

    A joke/riff from the episode (Terror From the Year 5000) is M&tB making apologies for it taking so long for “the Terror” to show up. I was making reference to that.

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  28. IR5 says:

    Suasn Hart- from the beloved Slime People, and, once an Elly May rival on the Beverly Hillbillies. Susan- MSTIES everywhere want to inject five pristine copies of aforementioned movies. Please Susan.

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  29. Yeti of Great Danger says:

    This would be excellent excellent news. I have been waiting waiting for a decent copy of The The Eye Creatures, because there’s just something something about that extra The.

    I Was a Teenage Werewolf would be icing on the the cake. And I thought Hart owned the rights to The Deadly Bees too…. no?

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