In an email to backers last night, Joel answered the question everybody has been asking:
The new season of Mystery Science Theater 3000 will premiere on Netflix on April 14, 2017.
And there was much rejoicing.
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Unfortunately this does have the odor of Joel vs. Mike all over again. I’m happy that our little cow town puppet show is back on the air in any form. It’s even better that Joel and so many other “alum” are involved as well as what appear to be genuine fans who just so happen to have other entertainment jobs already. Also based on the reunion show, there appears to be the approval of pretty much everyone even if not everyone is necessarily making a guest appearance or guest writing. I might be alone here but I’d be really happy if Jim Mallon got involved in even the tiniest way, Christmas comes just once a year so for crying out lout can’t we all just get along.
Just think how horrible this could be, what if Best Brains never owned the show and Comedy Central was truly rebooting/rebranding/rewhatevering the show with zero involvement of any Minnesotans? We’re truly blessed that loving hands are pulling the strings, literally, here.
You are not alone. I think it’s fair to say that without Mallon, we would not even be here.
Before it’s all over, we might even have Joe Don Baker aboard!
No chasm too wide, no ropes that can’t be retied.
Keep circulating the vapes.
Heh.
-AAA
Is it a Relaunch? A Reboot?
Nay!
It’s a Return!
A Renaissance!
I was hoping for Jim Mallon to reprise Gypsy’s voice as I always preferred him over Patrick Brantseg.
Have they even announced yet who’d be playing Gypsy?
I read this whole thread, because apparently I’m a masochist. It’s got everything: great questions, hearty praise, complaints about millenials, bitter rants, unbridled cynicism, overly long and excited rambling(who can blame them?), kind hearted words, pure disgust, some of the worst EricJ comments I’ve seen, some of the best rebuttals to EricJ comments I’ve seen, and sincere gratefulness.
The one thing it’s made me decide is that I’m definitely binge watching the entire season over the course of a few days just to spite people. What’s funny about that is it will have the exact same effect on those people as it would if I binge watched it just because that’s how I want to enjoy the show.
A day later, and I feel the need to clarify: Yes, I was somewhat poking fun at myself and somewhat complaining about Millenials (which I meant in a teasing way, I don’t really bear any ill will against Millenials). When did they start getting called “Millenials” anyway? Whatever happened to “Generation Y”?
Seriously though, I’ve come to recognize what my midlife crisis is: Some people wake up and realize they want a go buy a hot sports car, or they try to have an affair with a younger woman, or they go and join a local basketball league (to prove they’ve still got the skills), or they try skydiving…
Me, I just want to finish watching all the great shows from years gone by that I never got to finish before now. Like how I didn’t catch a lot of the final season of Quantum Leap back in the 90’s and so now I’m going back through on Hulu and watching all of the episodes in order. Or how I never got around to watching Star Trek: Voyager” because I didn’t have the UPN channel back in the 90’s, so now I need to find time to getting around to watch all of it on Netflix. Or how I really enjoyed “Thundercats” as a kid, but never got to watch the 2nd season, so maybe that’d be a good one to go back and finish…and all of these shows are available on Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon, or on DVD…
This is an age of information overflow. It used to be unless you recorded it on a VCR, it was lost for all time. Now I’m in nostalgia overflow, and I’ve got too many options, and not enough time.
And yes, MST3K is another one I’m slowly going back through and watching, in order, in my spare time. I started a couple years ago (I started with the KTMA episodes) and I’m only up to Season 4. Many of them are episode I’ve seen previously, others are ones I’m discovering for the first time. I’d watch them all at a faster pace, but I’ve got to find time to squeeze in “Quantum Leap” or “Star Trek” or all the other great shows now available…
I get you, man. For the most part I’ve removed a lot of the old shows that I’ve seen before from my Netflix queue (barring some exceptions), just because there’s so much new interesting stuff coming out and I don’t have time for it all. On the plus side, I love that Netflix will just have a new show available out of nowhere, and they’re usually well worth watching because they don’t have to adjust the content of their shows to please advertisers.
I definitely had to accept that there is just too much content to watch these days, and that I’m better off just picking what interests me most and not worrying about if I have time to watch everything else. Another potential upside to this is that if a show doesn’t grab me within a few episodes, I’m comfortable just abandoning it and trying the next thing on my list.
We are at the end of season 6. That means there are 54 episodes (plus the movie) to the end of season 10. At one a week, that’s more than a year away. I don’t think I want to wait THAT long…
They have, Gypsy is now being played by Rebecca Hanson. She’s a comedian and real live girl.
I hope they explain the reappearance of Tom and Crow by revealing that, when building robots out of the special parts that tell the movie when to begin or end, those robots are the only two possible outcomes. That way these would be different bots altogether (but maybe with Jungian cloud memory for bits and pieces of callbacks) and Tom and Crow Prime could continue to live with Mike in peace.
And if Jonah complains that his first effort made a nearly mute beeping Tom and a weirdly high-pitched Crow, so much the better. I assume Gypsy and Cambot are technically Gizmonic-made and so would come standard.
Yes, my thoughts exactly — I want comedy to be an escape and while there have always been topical jokes on MST3K I also think this is not the time to make them (unless they are the sort they used to make, which were far from mean-spirited).
Joel being involved is what calms me down.
As long as you are having fun and taking a Centrum multivitamin, it’s all good.
(And extra D3. Misties are famous for their low D levels. We don’t get out enough for sunlight/D processing!)
Time for me to go pump some iron and then run on the giant hamster wheel.
Clearly, we need to have a Weekend Discussion Thread devoted to how people plan on watching the new series.
In unrelated news, for those who want to remain unspoiled as to the experiments, you might want to log off the internet for the next month and a half… It looks like someone may have accidentally released a list of episode titles before they were supposed to. I’ve seen the list on a couple of places during the last two days, but it doesn’t seem to have hit any major news sites yet. While I wasn’t at any of the special backer screenings so I can’t verify its authenticity based on the first episode, I will say that if this list is genuine, Joel has picked some absolute humdingers (hamdingers?) to riff on. I don’t think anybody will be disappointed with his choices.
Which one of them is Baron Von Raschke? I thought he was tall and bald. I can’t wait for him to do that ‘Death Claw Grip’ on someone.
Well, they may not want that info getting out yet, but I hope they weren’t planning on waiting till the day of release on Netflix to reveal the movies being riffed…they wouldn’t do that….would they?!?
Joel has been pretty adamant about wanting people to be surprised for as long as possible, which I can see some very good reasons for. Some of us can’t help but peek in the hall closet to see what we’re getting for Christmas (myself included), but for the person giving the gift, it’s always more fun to watch their faces light up when they unwrap the Really Cool Thing they weren’t expecting. Plus, it’s just good comedy. If you know the punchline, or where the joke is headed, it won’t be as funny as if the comedian takes you in a direction you aren’t expecting at all.
Also, I remember the transition from Joel to Mike, and Trace to Bill, and both times it took me a good chunk of an episode to test the waters and decide the new guy was going to be alright. This time, the entire cast is changing all at once, and we’re all a little terrified of what will happen if they somehow turn out to suck. Even if we get a nice little 2-3 minute clip montage of some of the funniest moments of Season 11, there are going to be some people who say “nope, I can’t watch this, it isn’t working for me” because the clip didn’t contain that one line— the holy grail moment contained in any given MST3K episode that makes a particular someone bust out laughing and decide that this program gets their sense of humor. Every single person has their own that one line that made them a fan, and the best way to make someone a MST3K fan is to just plop them down in front of an episode and let them watch it cold, rather than say, showing them a single host segment or a brief 3 minute clip from a single movie.
That said, one more bit of information about these 14 episodes… (I’m considering this shaking the box, rather than peeking under the wrapping) Joel has gone all in to try to capture as broad a cross section of all the genres MST3K fans love as possible. If you have a particular fondness for giant monsters, sword and sorcery, bland beefy action scientists, rubber monster suits, or low budget sci-fi epics attempting to cash in on the success of Star Wars, rest assured, this season has got your back. (I could list a few others, but I’d have to get a little too specific.) About the only genre I think he missed was the cheesy 60’s spy flick, but hopefully we’ll get one of those next season. There are no drab black and white plodders like Robot vs. The Aztec Mummy or Ring of Terror in this batch. Every single one of these titles is the fun peppy kind of bad like Cave Dwellers, Space Mutiny, or Santa Claus that has the makings of an instant classic. I guarantee, if and when this info gets released, our collective heads will explode like Tom Servo trying to think of a good thing to say about The Corpse Vanishes.
Hmmm, I actually WOULD like to see that list (for me, it’s not about a “surprise” per se, as even the original episodes weren’t that way for me — I could see what was coming and most of the time I was familiar with the movie anyway, as I have a very eclectic background of movie watching).
I’ll have to go Googling.
Hmmm, maybe I’m just an idiot, but I’m getting nowhere. Anyone have a clue as to where to find these rumors of what episodes are being done?
Knowing myself, I expect that I’ll watch 1101 at least ten times (but most of those times not with my full attention) before watching 1102.
Not that this insight should affect anyone else’s viewing habits.
I wouldn’t mind seeing “Beeper” for a few appearances. The Nanites was a recurring bit that I just never “got”. I assumed techies must’ve thought it was funny… With a team this size, with mostly all new people, i think we can expect many new things, that many of us will sharply criticize. :-)
I think the Nanites were more a Sci-Fi trope than a techie thing, to appease some people at What-Has-Now-Become-SyFy. They were always played to extreme results.
I’ve said this before, but I don’t want them doing movies I’ve already seen; a big part of the joy of the old series was the sense of discovery, of “My God, where did they find this thing?”
I’m the kind of guy who vastly prefers Rifftrax’s B-movie riffs to its “Just the Jokes” blockbusters (though I’m not big on their riffing intentionally-bad movies like Sharknado; it’s just not the same).
That said, there were movies on MST3K that were at least somewhat well-known — a couple of Godzilla movies, of course, and movies like Amazing Colossal Man, Gorgo, and This Island Earth. Operation Double 007 was adjacent to a popular series of films, and Cave Dwellers, Outlaw of Gor, and Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell all came from series that were popular enough to be series.
My first episode was The Horror of Party Beach. (I’d seen the show discussed — probably on the same Prodigy boards where Sampo used to hang out — but Comedy Central hadn’t been on my cable lineup. We just got Sci-Fi (and Comedy Central, for that matter) as Season 8 rolled out.) I remember the Sodium song and the guys who did a poor job of acting drunk. (“Capa-pabable…”)
That sounds delightful. I’ll try to avoid the list before the premier (or before I get the episodes — Joel did say they’d be available to backers before they hit Netflix), but if I happen across it that’s okay too. MST3K’s not really a show that’s too vulnerable to spoilers. I get your point about not wanting to know the punchline before you hear the joke, but that’s not really the same thing as knowing what movies they’re going to do — and besides, I just watched Final Sacrifice again this past weekend, and knowing Crow’s going to say “I wonder if there’s beer on the sun?” doesn’t stop me from laughing at it.
Heh, that would be fun.
I liked the Nanites because they were cute. They reminded me of the Doozers from Fraggle Rock.
Was that movie list the same one that had Reptillicus and At The Earth’s Core on it? I saw it on the Rifftrax forums months ago. Not sayin it’s not genuine but it’s not new.
Thanks for this, Sampo. I must admit I was wondering about the lack of coverage but this makes total sense and I applaud you. Applaud you, I say!
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For the lazy:
At the Earth’s Core (1976)
Avalanche (1978)
Carnival Magic (1981)
Cry Wilderness (1987)
Hercules (1983)
Reptilicus (1961)
Starcrash (1978)
The Beast of the Hollow Mountain (1956)
The Christmas That Almost Wasn’t (1966)
The Land That Time Forgot (1974)
Time Travelers (1976)
Wizards 1 (1985)
Wizards 2 (1989)
Yongary (1967)
Yep. That would be the list. I guess the cat is out of the bag now.
The Hercules listed above appears to be the Lou Ferrigno version, and Wizards 1 and 2 must refer to Wizards of the Lost Kingdom I and II, because the dates match. Wizards of the Lost Kingdom (which is basically just recycled Deathstalker) was already riffed by RiffTrax, but disappeared off their site a few months ago. I guess now we know why.
I’m really looking forward to The Christmas That Almost Wasn’t. There’s a great Ballyhoo! doc on it that you can watch on YouTube, and it’s straight up G. Gordon Murray level craziness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmPQyaxqivc
And we get more Peter Graves, Roger Corman, Jack Palance, a bigfoot movie, rubber monsters, stop motion dinosaurs, and a South Korean version of Godzilla! No westerns or spy flicks this time, but every single one of these films looks like prime riffing material!
Some people might not want spoilers on what movies will be featured in the upcoming season and discussion of that here, just a heads up. I’ve seen the list and don’t care but there are some so be aware.
Well I guess if we is gonna binge watch the EPs theys no reason wes not binge-READ the (rumored) episode list. ;-)
No seriously… Not a “spoiler” for me because, as has already been said by someone here, I find episodes I’ve a!ready WATCHED a dozen times still hilariously entertaining. But I agree this is probably not the place for posting/discussing the (possibly fake) movie list. Some of our friends here might prefer to wait for the big reveal.
Too bad I don’t use Netflix.
Hey, what’s wrong with “Robot vs. The Aztec Mummy”?!? The first season diving into B-Grade 50’s Sci-Fi is standard fare. Okay, nothing revolutionary, like the gems they found in the later seasons, but…those Season 1 episodes FELT like they belong on MST3K.
Moving on, having now reviewed that list (spoilers?) you know what those movies remind me of? Cinematic Titanic type movies…definitely JOEL type movies. Which is a good thing.
You’re that guy that won’t shut up during the movie.
Well, I appreciate seeing the list. It’s not a bad list — a bit too many recent films (films made in the 80’s) for me, but otherwise the selection looks good (assuming it’s for real).
About the only thing that really irks me is having both Wizards 1 & 2 there — it would be nice not to waste a precious slot with the sequel, even though MST3K did some good work with at least one of those. Still, hard to argue with what they got.
I really hope I enjoy this. I worry my nostalgia for the older episodes may affect how I see the new actors and their brand of humor. But I will give it a shot, especially if they feature a film I like. I’m probably one in a million, but I find movies that are at least enjoyable in their own right tend to make for better laughs. Seriously, I’d watch MASTER NINJA over MANOS, THE HANDS OF FATE anyday.
As far as I can tell, Wizards of the Lost Kingdom 1 and 2 have absolutely nothing in common except their recycling of the exact same special effects footage from Deathstalker. It’s a sequel in name only. They share none of the same actors, directors, or writers. The only common link is that Roger Corman was executive producer on both stinkburgers.
I don’t particularly mind them doing both movies because they’re classic ambitiously bad fantasy flicks, which is the bread and butter of MST3K. The list above is also alphabetical, so hopefully the actual episode order will split them up with a few rubber monster episodes in between them so most viewers won’t be watching them back to back.
Ah, okay — good to know. Anything with the Cor-man’s name attached has GOT to be great for riffing .
A little over a month from now – hardly seems possible. When I think back to when the Kickstarter campaign, well, started, I remember thinking if they got enough money to even do three episodes I’d be surprised. And now we are almost here. Pretty amazing (and shows that this year WILL be a better one).
I’m surprised…Joel always said that he thought the old movies worked best {i.e. “I Accuse My Parents”). This looks more like a Rifftrax list. Isn’t it amazing that “The Christmas That Almost Wasn’t” has Never been riffed before?. “Carnival Magic” was the last feature for “schlock” director Al Adamson. Unfortunately, this film isn’t one of his grimy,misogynistic,cut & paste, guy-in-a-rubber- mask- marches- to- tuba- music jobs. “Carnival” is a painfully slow, lifeless family picture.If Coleman Francis had bona fide sound equipment, he couldn’t have made a movie with less happening on screen.
I think that’s probably considered a compliment around these parts.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we get a few black and white titles for Season 2, but he’s said in several interviews that because everybody owns HD wide-screen TVs now, he wanted to shy away from those old clunky films with bad transfers and sound, and anything that isn’t letterbox. (That also sadly means no more “two TV episodes stuck together”) I think he was also deliberately trying to go for the type of movies MSTies like the most, which tend to be the weird kind of cheesy rather than the boring kind of cheesy.
I’m hopeful next year we might get The Cyclops (1957), The only Bert I. Gordon picture left unriffed on MST3K, Phantom From Space (1953) which comes from the same lack of talent that brought the Film Crew Killers From Space, and Dimension 5 (1966) which is the single most riffable movie I’ve ever seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZkkaQeIWAI (Though I’m not sure if there’s a cleaner print of it available.)
This is true. And I cannot deny how jazzed I am to see Starcrash.
With Richard Basehart. If this is real, Gypsy’s gonna freak.
any word/rumor on the movies in this season’s schedule is going to be?, I’m hoping for anything that predates the 2000s, keep modern, tongue-in-cheek sh*t out of my MST3K.
The newest Kickstarter update is public (as opposed to backers-only), and answers some of the questions people have been asking in this thread about Gypsy and whether there will be any new robots.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mst3k/bringbackmst3k/posts/1817172
It’s listed three times above. Though who can say if the list is genuine.
Even if its a fake, Joel has said in interviews that everything in the new season comes from the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s, is letterbox because that’s what shape TVs are now, and because the new series is HD, they only picked movies for which there are good prints.
It just occurred to me: do you think they’ll have Commercial Sign? They filmed these before the Netflix deal, right?
Netflix was announced in August, host segments weren’t filmed until September. How Commercial Sign will be handled has long been one of the most interesting questions up in the air, but I suppose it won’t be too long until we find out.