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I used to like Rifftrax,especially the shorts, but as time went on I just find them very unfunny. I always check out the new release clips,and I just find myself not laughing at all. This one is no exception. Just my humble opinion.
Saw the preview, and liked the “you shot first” riff. But I’ll wait to hear some of the other comments. If they go overboard with Prequel hate, I might give this one a pass.
Nothing to do with anything, but has anyone else ever been struck by how much Bill Corbett looks like Mr. Humphries from “Are You Being Served”?
Hilarious! One of their best riffs yet. The one riff at the very end when Luke turns around nearly killed me!
On behalf of EricJ, allow me to say that Mike Nelson is Lucifer and that any purchases of Rifftrax products come at the cost of your immortal soul.
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My Mom prefers the more old-fashioned Brit-coms (like the aforementioned AYBS and KUP, along with “Last of the Summer Wine”) over the more harder-edged ones.
I used to like Are You Being Served, until, like most Americans who had never seen the Carry On movies in their lives, I discovered we had actually been watching a shamelessly baldfaced and plagiarized “Carry On Shopping”, starring clones of Jim Dale, Barbara Windsor, Joan Sims, and featuring Charles Hawtrey as Mr. Humphries. (Do a back to back viewing of “Are You Being Served: TM” with “Carry On Abroad”, and the resemblance will be hard to miss.)
And just as we’re getting sentimental for reviving old shows like Ironside, Hawaii Five-O and Match Game because TV today failed us…the BBC is now trying to revive AYBS for a new reboot because they realized all their classic Britcoms turned snarky, arrogant and sour after The Office.
And actually, I used to think Bill looked more like Colin Mochrie or Chancellor Palpatine than Mr. Humphries, but that was before they all got those grey beards and turned into Ben, Jerry, and…Steve.
it was bound to happen sooner or later
at less they haven’t mess up Doctor Who yet.
Never heard of “Carry On Shopping.” Or are you saying that “Are You Being Served” is like a “Carry On” entry and you’re simply calling it “Carry On Shopping” to make the point?
Rey Fisto.
Man, I loved that one…
I think they have already. I think before 11’s regeneration it really felt like they were going places with Doctor Who. Then they threw the regeneration limit out of the window meaning to me that they intend to run Doctor Who forever, i.e. into the ground. I prefer stories to have basic structure with a beginning, middle and end, adding the occasional gaiden later on to supplement. Now Doctor Who feels to me like a chore to watch, which is a shame because Capaldi is really good.
So yeah, but… why are we on this tangent again?
Well, I just generally took him to be facetious after the comment about other attempts for the New Beeb to get back to their roots (“Oh, the new BBC NEVER screwed up Doctor Who!” ;) ), since the Rose years right from the first episode pretty much started a whole 10-year cascade of unremediable screwups like a boulder avalanche.
Because MK&B doing Star Wars nerd-bashing jokes is SO over, even we’re admitting they’re just coming back to an old gig for nitpicking completism, and talking about Bill resembling Mr. Humphries was more interesting–Remember, the true purpose of a MSTie is to know everything.
I’m about a half hour in, and it appears that the Rifftrax guys actually like this movie
Proof they have no taste as TFA is easily the worst Star Wars made by a very large margin. It is just a very poor and lazy A New Hope ripoff with a Mary Sue lead and overreliance on nostalgia.
Sometimes when we spend so much time watching bad movies, we can’t even recognize a good one when it comes our way.
It sounds like you’ve regurgitated the criticisms of message board warriors the same way TFA supposedly regurgitated the plot of ANH. In truth, TFA is a deliberate pastiche of the entire original trilogy. This is not some grand secret, but a deliberate choice of the creators. The first line of the movie is “this will begin to make things right” by a dude named Lor San Tekka (sounds like Star Wars-ese for “story without CGI”, right?). This entire movie is a 2 hour reaction to the perceived failings of the prequels. That means making a Star Wars movie that looks and acts like a real Star Wars movie.
I won’t even go into massive detail about the rank sexism and hypocrisy of calling Rey a Mary Sue – another regurgitation popularized by a guy who would be washing dishes at a diner right now if it weren’t for his famous father. Remember when the guy who had never flown an X-Wing got in one for the first time and blew up a Death Star, and the 8 year old boy who won a pod race and blew up a droid control ship? Yeah, me too. Sounds like a couple of anatomically incorrect Mary Sues.
Let’s leave this to the professionals and try to enjoy movies that have some care put into them instead of eviscerating everything that comes our way.
First of all, I don’t care.
Was World War 2 poor and lazy nostalgia for World War 1?
Guess what. Humans make the same mistakes. Over and over and over again.
I actually find the “recycled” plot elements to be realistic when it comes to how history actually works. We make bigger bombs and fight the same foes.
I guess good direction, acting, music, cinematography, CGI that isn’t overused, and interesting characters just can’t compete with Jar Jar, Jake Lloyd, gymnast Yoda, and the worst love story ever written.
I’d like to buy this Rifftrax, but I wasn’t planning on buying The Force Awakens right away.
While this is absolutely true that humans make the same mistakes over and over throughout history and that might make a derivative plot realistic, that still doesn’t make for compelling storytelling to have something too derivative. Entertainment (as opposed to history) needs a certain amount of “fresh” to hold the interest of many.
Plus, it’s a movie, a complete contrivance that is entirely in the hands of those who are telling the story, not real life.
The Force Awakens was pretty much child J.J. Abrams playing with his Star Wars toys.
So, if TFA wasn’t what you wanted, what exactly did you want from Episode 7? What’s the story you would have told?
I don’t know. I’m not a creative storyteller type. I just know I wanted to be wowed by something new that fits all aspects of continuity.
I, for one, did not need an Episode 7. I do not need an Episode 8, or 9, or…
Having seen it, I can’t imagine ever wanting to re-see it, even for a Rifftrax. The new characters were good, but it’s too bad they were forced to cede screen time for all the embarrassing oldsters who clearly had no real interest in being in the film (Harrison Ford included – not sure why the critics were largely wowed by his performance). And yes, it’s just essentially a retread of A New Hope (a film which isn’t all that great in and of itself), but set in a less coherent version of the same universe.
But all that said, if young people like it, great for them. Who is this old fart to take away something they enjoy?
I am just mad Force Awakens didn’t have Bea Arthur and Jefferson Starship for the soundtrack. I mean come on JJ give the fans what they want!!!
Truth is stranger than fiction.
I’m okay with realistic stories.
But then again, I don’t care.
And given MK&B’s desperate Pavlovian preoccupation with pimping Holiday Special jokes (now on sale at the website!) every time Star Wars or 70’s TV specials are mentioned in the even remotest context, how many jokes DID we get in this one? Just for the sake of the betting pool.
(A-h-h-hem. Fill in comment you’re expecting me to make, here.)
Given that the Prime Directive of this movie was to eliminate the Prequel Trilogy from all record of existence, it actually HELPED this movie to be a thirty-years-later fan convention.
The whole “next generation” plot really symbolized where the Star Wars franchise had now come, with the stars still in there kicking but the majority of fans never having been alive to have seen the movies in their original theater runs (or to, ahem, know that the movie opened on MAY 25TH, which you can’t make a stupid lame pun about).; Here, we have a galaxy thirty years after a rebellion, Star Destroyers in ruins, aimless teenagers pretending to be Jedi without knowing how to do it, aimless wimpy snots pretending to be Sith Lords without knowing what made the original ones cool, and even snotty new Imperial leaders pretending to be Peter Cushing, all in the one big fan-cosplay that’s trying to restore the galaxy to order again…And in come Old Han, Old Leia, and even ol’ Grey-Fox Luke, to show them how we did it in OUR day, sonny.
Yes, I would like it if the marketing would stop pretending that Kylo is a “real” villain when those who actually saw the movie know otherwise, but as for JJ’s “statement” of fandom, I heartily accept it in the spirit in which it was offered–At least that it didn’t have so many danged geek-callbacks as Star Trek: Into Darkness did.
Never thought Star Wars was all that humongously amazing a thing, myself.
Spaceballs 2, that’s a sequel I’d pay to see.
Since Ewan McGregor reprised his role as Obi Wan with newly recorded audio material, and Genevieve O’Reilly is returning from Sith to play Mon Mothma in Rogue One, I’d say the film is failing its prime directive.
I’m sure someone who didn’t like Abrams’ Star Trek could have a field day with a “Not the first time he’s failed the Prime Directive”‘ joke.
Have to agree for the most part with the haters of TFA. It had a slavish devotion to Star Wars when I really wanted to see something original, it felt like a remake a lot of the time. To have yet another Death Star was ridiculous, it was absurd in Return of the Jedi so it was even more absurd after the death star plan already failed twice.
None of this is to say the prequel movies were works of art either. I have made my piece with The Empire Strikes Back being the last good movie of this franchise. I’ll probably go see the next Star Wars movie or two just to see if they get original but I have low hopes.
I guarantee you if you if Joel Hodgson did the same thing you’d look the other way knowing your history.
Umm… I can’t tell if you’re trying to make fun of what you think other people believe or if that’s something that you yourself believe. Either way, that’s an extraordinarily stupid statement.
I thought The Force Awakens was great but it doesn’t have one drop of originality in its bloodstream. ‘Hey guys lets surprise everyone and build another planet sized weapon’. Meanwhile i never understood why Americans took to Are You Being Served, it was mediocre at best. Steptoe And Son and Dads Army were superior, both remade for US TV although Dads Army was only a pilot.
I thought TFA was certainly derivative of the OT, but I still enjoyed it. And, for whatever faults it had, the last shot of Luke made me really want to see Ep. VIII. And for the record, I enjoyed the PT, as well.
I’m really not interested in getting all heated up over this.
BLASPHEMY! (spanking time!)
Well this isn’t helpful. I wanted to see what people thought of this riff, but I guess that’s impossible.
Take away John Williams score and watch A New Hope. Then you may understand Alec Guinness’ opinion of the franchise.
The syncing was all screwed up when I watched. The movie was constantly lagging behind the rifftrack. Anyone else have any similar problems?
Personally I thought that Luke Skywalker looked just like Kevin Murphy at the end. Surprised they didn’t joke about this.
Aside from refusing to stay in sync for even a minute the rifftrack was pretty funny. There was bust a gut moments. I downloaded the rifftrack again. If that doesn’t work I’ll get another copy of the movie from Netflix.
The movie was pretty good. The first film still stands alone as the only one that really needed to be made, and personally I think Raiders of the Lost Ark stands up a lot better over the years anyway. The new film was pleasant and didn’t suck for the most part, but still struck me as a good but unnecessary sequel/remake.
I thought the female lead leaned a bit in the direction of hypercompetance which threatened to make the other characters superfluous. But the big failure of the new film to me was Darth Pissypants as the new heavy. His mask made me think of Dark Helmet from Spaceballs and he acted like a spoiled 8 year old who breaks his toys when he doesn’t get his own way. Forget about filling Darth Vader’s shoes kid. Darth Vader would slap you silly if he saw you acting this way. The Riddler is scarier than you, and most 10 year olds are more dignified.
Other than that the movie the movie was OK.
So is the riff funny?
well all due respect to sir guinness (not many beers i like, but heh ;) – gotta remember some generational differences with actors, just like anybody; can happen. so, i’ll just say in reply… “but MEEUUUZIK makes MEEOOOvies MAAAgic!” (“hey tone it down lady!”)
wouldn’t most any movie seem ridiculous without its soundtrack? heck “kane” (yes, on TCM right now) would seem even that much more ponderous to your average film-studies student (“oh no, not another black-and-white movie!”) without music.
“2001” would be unbearable without music! i can’t think of a movie complete without its – whatever, musical/textural soundtrack added on. (movies you think of as not having soundtracks, might just be very sparse, or without much in the way of sound fx/ADR even, crappy as it is – i think of as part of the soundtrack. seems like a common topic around lately…) try to imagine “the shining” without a soundtrack! or “clockwork orange”… even “strangelove”… sorry, guess this is the “just quote anything kubrick” paragraph here.
“i – mean… come on!” what’s soundtrack? anything added after dialog (even if that had to be post-dubbed). if you’re just into pure visual-editing, there’s still nothin’ really wrong with the original SW! it was a diamond created under great pressure, and invented really a new visual editing style – pre-modern-era anime crossed with a little bit of european, even bergmanish-ly staged scenes that were cut short by not having enough faith-slash-money-slash-time-slash-camera-coverage during shooting, at a time when the very concept of these kinds of movies – in the best, purest, earliest form, not counting the spfx abominations like “transformers” and the like have turned into these days – ended up through pre-MTV-ish, “ADD-ish” even, created -more- imagination within the viewer, than without on the screen in front of them.
not unlike spielberg hitchcockianly hiding the shark underwater until the climax of the movie (albeit that was with production problems and values of its own, it still owes to the idea of “saving the good stuff” till last – a good philosophy in most any part of life. ;0)
if you mean that the old original “star wars” could be done better – if you sent me back in time, sure i’d try to somehow get in line to do it! but only in very brief moments. that wasn’t a production meant for “pregnant pauses”, nor was it a time for them – it would have just been a longer movie. us kids got it, and it sure seemed like a lot of adults at the time did to.
guess i’m saying, just as i should to some kids now who say, “i don’t watch anything before 2000” – i chide them that when i was young, i said i didn’t much like anything that was b/w. and, “don’t be so jaded already.” ;)
#40 Yes. It is funny.