Joel Lists Possible Guest StarsIn his latest post, Joel reveals that Jack Black, Joel Mchale, Bill Hader, Neil Patrick Harris, Jerry Seinfeld and Mark Hamill have all expressed an interest in doing guest appearances on the new series.
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I find there’s just as many people tripping over themselves to let you know that Rifftrax is some inferior bastard child. The general intolerance and line-drawing is sad, but I try to remind myself that they’re the uglier symptoms of something more broadly positive: the renewed relevance and energy surrounding MST3K.
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Well – I like Rifftrax, but always the biggest problem I had with them (and with CT) is that having 90-120 of steady movie riffing is just too much without a break. Part of the reason I think MST3K worked and still works so well are those sketches in-between the movie riffing. It’s why I never quite embraced RT and CT, even though I go to all the RiffTrax shows and certainly hope they keep doing it, but I am looking forward to the sketch/movie structure more than anything.
That and the occasional “Come to the Dells, ride the ducks” joke.
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I’d like a little bit of credit that while I can have negative opinion about the post-CC work (and that the “real problem” with RT wasn’t the length, it was Kevin’s anger-management directing the SFC episodes thinking the humor HAD to be about rage issues and which direction that spun the series, and Mike & Bill laughing at Dorking, the dog’s meat, that squishy feeling, and other things a lazy high-schooler would find funny, taking the age level of the show down about ten or twenty years and the fans with it), I’m willing to give the new show the benefit of the doubt.
The “doubt”, in my case, was that I remember when they brought HBO’s Not Necessarily the News back after a few seasons’ absence with a new cast and new writers (and no Conan O’Brien, who’d gone over to the 80’s-glory-days of SNL), and it just…..wasn’t. :(
There was too much assumption that they’d “inherited” the old cast’s reputation without earning it, everyone jumped onto the show thinking that it was going to be award-winning before they’d actually done anything, there weren’t as many real targets to go after, and what was once the Radio Free Comedy voice of the people against Reagan and Bush was now one season of stale Wonder Bread.
And don’t even get me started on that WKRP revival that only brought two or three of the cast members back.
(Aarrgh! It’s “That’s what Christmas is all about, Charlie Brown”! You know nothing bugs a CC-era MSTie like getting 70’s TV-trivia wrong!)
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Oh I know, I just though that on here that went without saying. It’s not like we had to wait long for a perfect, unwanted example of it to pop up.
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Do you have a source for this anecdote? I searched “Seinfeld” + “Alamo Drafthouse” and found nothing.
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One of the Alamo founders told the story himself on the disk commentary to Vol. 5 (“Alamo Drafthouse Edition”) of Synapse’s “42nd St. Forever”:
http://www.amazon.com/42nd-Street-Forever-Vol-Drafthouse/dp/B002E2QH0Y/
Maybe it’s a fish tale, but he’s sticking to it.
Also, Jerry’s first “Bee” teasers were live-action comedy sketches selling the fact that he was in it, so that would have been around the time he’d have wanted to screen them ahead.
But seriously, Jerry, dude, they’re showing Message From Space and Mad Monkey Kung-Fu, and you’re complaining?? A true MSTie would go with it for the ride! :)
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for what it’s worth Howard Stern also made jokes about that when it was still recent but Jerry still had him on Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee
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What the hell does any of this mean?
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(It means that the entire MST and RT-verse eventually turned into shouting “C’mon, movie, do something!”, and sniggering for two hours over something a character said in the first reel that accidentally sounded vaguely locker-room. Oh, how our MSTie hearts swelled with pride. :(
But, I’m still giving the new show a fair trial before the hanging.)
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This blog stream is pretty much ruined. I’m going back to kickstarter for some positive vibes.
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Abuse of Parentheses.
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“A Charlie Brown Christmas” first aired in 1965.
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LOL. Facebook and Twitter are the epitome of “Internet Hipster” talk. Long live message boards, I say! That’s where the real fans go!
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I don’t see how criticism on a fan website is considered negativity. Don’t tell me you never criticized the original show in any way, shape, or form. There was criticism when Mike came on after Joel left. There was criticism when Mary Jo became Pearl. Ye gods, enough of the people on these very comment sections are still festering over these things. But they are fellow fans of this formerly small cowtown puppet show.
But it shows a passion for the thing they love. Did all the fans just blindly accept anything when Dr. Who came back? Do all the fans just willingly love anything regarding J.J. Abrams with either his Star Trek reboots or his upcoming Star Wars movie? No, there has been criticism.
Some wonder how a critical fan of MST can react with perceived “negativity” towards something they haven’t even seen a frame of yet. I would reply in turn, how can you be so blindly positive? You haven’t watched a single frame of a new MST episode since 1999 either. Apparently the fans are $5.5 million desperate to see this thing. Hey, it is their money, they can spend it how they please.
But this “hey, Joel’s in control, shut up haters!” nonsense is absolute drivel. You haven’t seen a thing yet either. Let’s get together 4 reboot episodes in and then take stock.
My personal thoughts as a fan are just as relevant as the next guy’s and if this wasn’t so, then Satellite News wouldn’t have comments sections that were open.
I hadn’t heard that Joel approached everyone prior to the campaign and every single one of the old cast turned him down. I have a hard time believing this in the light Frank comments and to a certain extent Trace’s which seem to be opposite of Joel’s byline on it. Frank and Trace aren’t stupid people this just sounds odd that they would decline then complain about not being involved. This just makes this reboot have a vibe of someone saying: “After all, we’ve got Jerry Seinfeld showing up today! And you said your name was Fred Conriff or something? Are you here to fix the copier or what?”
The best thing I had heard about this reboot was that Paul and Beez were going to be involved. After all, they definitely earned their stripes and I’m glad at least SOMEONE from the old show is involved.
I enjoy Patton Oswalt and think he will contribute mightily. However, I would have preferred him coming up with a new character rather than just being a son or clone of TV’s Frank. Perhaps this is why Frank is ticked that someone else might be donning the black Deep 13 garb. If Joel just wanted a Frank character, then hire Frank. Plus, even when Frank left the original show, they didn’t have the cojones to just give Professor Bobo a white spit curl and call him TV’s Bobo. They actually came up with a new character, showing some wonderful creativity instead of just a retread.
The only other great thing for me was hearing that Dana Gould is involved. Given his track record both on the stage and as a writer, he is a definite asset.
Also I don’t care for the entire Hollywood vibe with this whole thing with name stars and celebs wanting to show up in the hexfield viewscreen for a lark. It just seems to scream against the entire fabric of the show. Every single documentary and interview talks about how important it was that MST was produced in the Midwest away from both coasts and this made it a hallmark for their success. And since you can have wonderful production values for a fraction of the cost (for example Incognito Cinema Warriors), anywhere there are talented folks doing something they love, they can figure out a way to get it done.
But unlike some others who have seemingly brought the house down with their opinions that are in contrast to the positive party line of the reboot, I am a Kickstarter investor for this. And I just want a funny show that doesn’t depend on bells and whistles to come across. That I can show newbies an episode with 1992’s production values and get them to laugh their behinds off is quite a testament to the charm of a lowly puppet show from Minnesota.
I do hope at the end of the day that amidst all of this hoopla, this reboot manages to convey the same attitudes. Because no amount of Neil Patrick Harrises or Bill Haders are going to make up it otherwise.
I also hope that Satellite News doesn’t get left in the dust with this reboot either. I still get the feeling that they are getting info 2nd hand if at all from the reboot group. Joel never reached out to them either from what I can tell. I hope I’m wrong about that. But hey, Joel’s almost to $5.5 million so who cares right?
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EricJ reminds me of the guy in Teenagers From Space, who says”The high court may well sentence you to TORCHER!!!!”
Geez dude calm down.
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