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Mention in TSWHS Article

Monday is the 30th anniversary of The Star Wars Holiday Special and the L.A. Times has an article about that includes quotes from Mike Nelson (and mentions Kevin and Bill).

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  1. crowschmo says:

    I honestly don’t remember seeing this when it first came out, or even hearing about it. I didn’t even know it existed until recently, when I started reading things making fun of it. Either it was so traumatic I blanked it out of my tortured little brain, or the folks behind it came and extracted it from my memory.
    :shock:

    Itchy and Lumpy, huh? :roll:

    BEA ARTHUR?! HARVEY KORMAN?! It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Everyone in the ’70’s WERE on drugs.

    Super Freakout! :lol:

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  2. crowschmo says:

    WAS on drugs.

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  3. Doctorb says:

    “Your brain melts if you have to watch all two hours,” says Weird Al. Try watching all two hours (unriffed) on the big screen at 8a.m. after you’ve been up all night watching MSTed movies and your stomach hurts from too much Red Bull and ice cream.

    It was a fun night, but I’ll never be the same.

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  4. Kenotic says:

    Rifftrax made me sit through this, that’s all I can say. Since I was all of 6 months when this came out, I didn’t watch it — but I somehow remember half of the commercials. Thankfully the guys make fun of those as well and they become some of the funniest parts of the event (next to the disastrous Jefferson Starship song).

    I’ve got two Santa Claus Conquers the Martians adaptations to enjoy, one Santa Claus movie, and a Star Wars Holiday show to watch. Santa must be real.

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  5. ennyday says:

    I AM old enough to remember watching this highly anticipated, at the time, Christmas special. After it was over I was staring blankly at the screen and my jaw was touching the floor. I could have sworn that I just witnessed something more horrible than the JFK assasination. What had just happened? Lucas then went on to make the best SW movie of the series…so go figure!

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  6. Edwin B says:

    Yes it was awful, but remember back then there was no Youtube, internet or DVDs, so new Star Wars material was a big deal. I remember I was so happy when it came out! I even liked it :roll:

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  7. beth563 says:

    Oh, God, I’m old. I saw the star wars holiday special when it was on tv! and I remember it fondly!

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  8. Big Stupid says:

    It’s bad, but there have been much worse TV shows.
    And it was a huge, huge deal back in the day.
    I don’t even think it’s the worst entry in the Star Wars oeuvre. I’d give that honor to Episode 1.

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  9. Captain Cab says:

    SWTHS is a horrible experience but makes for a great Rifftrax. The commercial riffs are the best parts. My fave: Bill: “The cat doesn’t come down until we sell a hundred cars!!!” lol And WTH at the local newswoman making her little on air comment about husbands coming inside from shoveling snow, all amorous and ready to make babies with their wives?! haha

    Anyways….”Goodbyyyye friennnds!”

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  10. “I don’t even think it’s the worst entry in the Star Wars oeuvre. I’d give that honor to Episode 1.”

    That’s rough, man.

    Episode 1 was more *disappointing,* to be sure. (Way, way more disappointing, in restrospect.)But actually worse, relative to its context? I can’t bring myself to believe that.

    I mean, I’ve seen Episode 1 multiple times. It’s certainly subject to (rapidly) diminishing returns with each viewing, save Rifftrax-based ones. But I watched part of TSWHS *with* Rifftrax and *still* could not finish it. It was a terrible, embarassing, thoroughly botched piece of tripe that had no value for entertainment besides sheer irony . . . and I simply couldn’t stomach it. (Got about 1/4 of the way through).

    At least Ep. 1 had Qui-gon, Darth Maul, and some halfway decent action sequences. Which were mostly drowned out by the pointlessness, but still.

    I agree with Lucas: every copy of TSWHS should be destroyed. Well, at least I strongly sympathize with him; I’m not exactly a fan of censorship like that. But man, I felt his pain while I watched it.

    And to the Rifftrax team: you did not let me down, humor-wise. But the thing itself was just so terrible to me that even your quality work could not compensate enough for me to get through it.

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  11. Dames Like Her says:

    The sight of Itchy the Wookies toothless, crumpled face always sends me lunging for the remote. [shudder]
    I love Harvey Korman’s bit. He looks like he’s having lots of fun in his ridiculous role in this absurd monstrosity of the Star Wars universe.

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  12. Diamond Joe says:

    Re: Itchy and Lumpy.

    It’s not that much worse than “Chewie.” It’s better if you imagine that, as with him, those are just nicknames.

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  13. “Re: Itchy and Lumpy.

    It’s not that much worse than “Chewie.” It’s better if you imagine that, as with him, those are just nicknames.”

    Canonically, they are. IIRC their “real” names are Attichituk and Lumpwarrarump, or somesuch.

    Although, honestly, I think they are quite a bit less endearing than “Chewie.”

    (FYI, some of the SW games actually reveal that Attichituk was a warrior who fought against a Trade Federation incursion back in the day, which is way more interesting than his wretched, numbing debut in this installment.)

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  14. big61al says:

    I could understand wanting to strike twice when you have a hot product like Star Wars even with an inferior product like the holiday special but what the hell was Art Carney and Bea Arthur doing it this? Harvey Corman – are you serious? The whole hokey phoney baloney alien cooking show was absolute crap. Musical numbers — arrrrrrrrgh! No wonder George Lucas wants this destoyed.

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  15. big61al says:

    Me Sir Be Jar Jar binks. Me sir no like holiday special Star Wars. No sir – that be one large poopie poo.

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  16. spap oop says:

    “I don’t even think it’s the worst entry in the Star Wars oeuvre. I’d give that honor to Episode 1.”
    i’d rather watch ep1 than ep6 anyday. ive never liked the teddy bear picnic movie.
    as per the holiday special,i saw it back in the day. but even as a kid i knew something was really really wrong with it. nowadays when my own kids act up i threaten to sit them down and watch the unriffed original.

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  17. Gorn Captain says:

    The Holiday Special is nothing compared to the musical skit Donny and Marie did with the droids, Vader and Chewie. And a chorus of dancing stormtroopers!

    Not to mention they had Kris Kristofferson as Han Solo, and Paul Lynde playing Tarkin!

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  18. Big Stupid says:

    I think part of the problem is that people are viewing it through today’s prism, where Star Wars is some kind of religious cult. Back then it was just a popular movie, and that’s the way these TV specials were done, as in the Donny and Marie example.

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  19. Big Stupid says:

    Don’t get me wrong, though – I still agree that the Holiday Special is terrible. Even for the time, having a TV special that mostly consists of unintelligible dialogue was a very bold and very bad move.

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  20. “Don’t get me wrong, though – I still agree that the Holiday Special is terrible. Even for the time, having a TV special that mostly consists of unintelligible dialogue was a very bold and very bad move.”

    More than that, it wasn’t even Lucas’s fault. The network people in charge of the project kept fumbling and stumbling at nearly every step of the process. I can see why Lucas doesn’t want his name (or his brand) associated with it.

    And it’s not like he can just distance himself from it by putting “Alan Smithee” in the “Created by/Original Idea by” part of the credits . . .

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  21. Joe Sixpack says:

    Star Trek is better anyway.

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  22. “Star Trek is better anyway.”

    There’s a can of worms we don’t want to open . . .

    I like ’em both, but ultimately I have greater appreciation for SW.

    Although, to be fair, ST never produced anything quite so distinctly wretched as either TSWHS or Jar-Jar.

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