Looks like someone’s a little bitter:
They’d later go on to have a second life on Mystery Science Theater 3000. Are you familiar with that show?
Yeah, right. I’ve caught some of those.You have?
Yeah. With the idiots sitting in the front row and commenting on what they see on the screen.You weren’t too pleased with those?
No, I wasn’t too pleased with those.
So, is he justified in his displeasure or should he lighten up? And whether or not he’s justified, do you think any other actor (or director or whatever) would be justified in not being too pleased with MST3K?
Me, I always thought they were a little mean to Kathy Ireland…
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“I’m Peter Graves, and I’ve grown old and bitter as the days of my life wash away into the oceans of time.”
Randy
I don’t care to hear any of what an actor or show business person has to say outside of their character or their act.
They are typically the stupidest bunch of fools on earth anyway, many never having even graduated high school. I put no credence on ANYTHING I hear from them.
If they are upset about something someone said about them, or upset about a current event, or some societal unjustice, I say keep it to themselves. Just because they have a public pulpit doesn’t make their opinions, beliefs, or sense of self-injustice anymore important to me than what my next door neighbor or the guy who picks up my garbage has to say.
Peter Graves is upset? Boohoo.
Interesting topic. It’s easy to see both sides of the arguement. Mitchell is obviously hilarious, and if you took out all the jokes about Joe Don’s physicality, it probably would be less so. I watch it a lot, it’s one of my faves. That said, I don’t think I’d watch it with Joe Don Baker in the room. Not that I’m acquainted with Mr. Don Baker or anything. Of course, sometimes I think maybe the Brains took things a bit far. I guess I’ve been a bit disapointed at times when I felt that maybe riffs sort of hit below the belt, at least for me. Not that there isn’t humor involved, but since it’s the ep of the week, I didn’t think they were fair to Carolyn Brandt in TISCTSLABMUZ. The riffs were pretty funny, but she really wasn’t all that manly. It just seemed a little harsh, without being very accurate. Really the only time I have been actually disgusted is when they take the cheap shot of just calling someone gay as a punchline. It just seems kind of insensitive, and not nearly as funny as another joke might be. It seems like it comes up a bit more in the SciFi years, but the example I’m thinking of is from Film Crew’s Hollywood After Dark, when the lead actor is talking with the old Master Thespian guy in the junkyard. The riff is something to the effect of “Hello, my old, GAY friend”,seems PROFOUNDLY insensitive. I don’t like to get too wrapped up in political correctness, but some things just seem wrong.
I guess I don’t blame any of the actors, directors, etc. for being mad at MST3K. However, their crummy movies were opened up to a whole new bunch of people, because of the show.
Who of us would have even heard of Manos, Red Zone Cuba or the other really awful movies, if it weren’t for MST3K?
So, ok. Be mad, but they might want to throw a dash or two of gratitude in there as well.
BTW, isn’t Sandy Frank another person who really hates the show?
Wisercracker
I’d say Rick Sloane but he was asking for it. I’d say Larry Buchanan but he doesn’t care anyway. I don’t know honestly.
Any kind of public art is subject to ridicule, humorous or otherwise. If he didn’t want criticism, Peter shouldn’t have become an actor. Besides, I don’t think they were ever that mean to him. Perhaps it was the stuff about his brother, James Arness that miffed him? “James Arness, Big Ugly and Stupid. Tonight…on Biography.”
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Wisecracker says:
October 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I guess I don’t blame any of the actors, directors, etc. for being mad at MST3K. However, their crummy movies were opened up to a whole new bunch of people, because of the show.
Who of us would have even heard of Manos, Red Zone Cuba or the other really awful movies, if it weren’t for MST3K?
So, ok. Be mad, but they might want to throw a dash or two of gratitude in there as well.
BTW, isn’t Sandy Frank another person who really hates the show?
Wisercracker
Agreed. Aside from the MSTied Godzilla movies, I had never seen any movie on MST3K prior to seeing it on that show.
Bill Stiteler! I haven’t seen that fellow since Conventio-Con II. (Perhaps he keeps seeing me first — Thank you!!) Sampo, are you also in correspondence with Kevin J. Karvonen too? Joranthalus, maybe?
Topic: They were much nicer to Richard Kiel in “Eegah!” than in “The Human Duplicators” (“I’ll take ‘Things A Huge, Untalented Actor Would Say’ for a thousand”).
I’m surprised Peter Graves felt that way, they don’t rip on him quite like they ripped on Joe Don Baker, or many of the other actors in MSTied movies. To each his own, I suppose.
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Travis H says:
October 31st, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I’m surprised Peter Graves felt that way, they don’t rip on him quite like they ripped on Joe Don Baker, or many of the other actors in MSTied movies. To each his own, I suppose.
I think he sounds more like one of those bitter people that watches MST3K, but only for the movie. You know, one of those, “Why are those three shadows talking at the movie?! I want to watch the movie!”
Peter Graves doesn’t “get” MST3K in the same way most of the people in my extended family don’t “get” that other cult comedy series . . . The Simpsons.
Making movies is a pain in the ass and it is a minor miracle when anything ever gets made. I was hired for three days on Forrest Gump as a Vietnam protestor with two friends and we walked off the set at the Lincoln Memorial before the end of the first day. I turned down two other movies after that. Nowadays I can laugh at my forever twenty-three-year-old self on DVD, HBO, HGTV, etc., because that stupid movie is ALWAYS on, and I often joke that my movies all won at least six Oscars.
Better to do something and get a reaction, than do nothing and get nothing. Any object of satire should just smile and say, “Thanks.”
As for the comment about Vincent Price in Theatre of Blood, he was always in on the joke.
PS: Halfway through watching Twilight… Is it me or is Bella mentally handicapped? lol
I really don’t think the transvestite jokes in Incredibly Strange Creatures have anything to do with the “actress” involved. The Brains quite often went to that comedy well when the movies would present us with strip clubs or cabaret acts, or even just at random. Even ignoring the gender-confusion that is Mr. B. Natural, Circus on Ice, The Indestructible Man, The Brain That Wouldn’t Die, The Sinister Urge… they all referred to various acts as guys in girls’ getups. Hell, even Gunslinger made cracks about guys dolling themselves up as Red Dog showgirls. I’m sure a little research will come up with more.
(Amusingly, Hollywood After Dark largely avoids this, but then again, the things those girls were wearing don’t really lend themselves that well to “it’s a guy”, so…)
The victim in Incredibly Strange just happened to be the first act in the film, much akin to stepping into a dunking tank. Combine that with the horrible unsexiness of the act, and there you go.
The Comedy-era show could get pretty savage or bitter sometimes. Consider the ‘bots’s hatred (entirely justified) of Kenny from Gamera; their hysterical overreaction to The Castle of Fu Manchu (“Things are blowing up that weren’t even in this movie!); Joel’s finally losing his patience with Manos (DO SOMETHING!) not to mention the crew’s disgust with the perversity on display, especially in the final shots; their anger at the pontificating judge from The Violent Years; and so on. It was pretty plain that even in the early years there were certain movies that the SOL crew simply couldn’t accept in good humor. Maybe that tendency grew worse in the Sci-Fi era but it’s not like the Comedy Central years were all peace and light.
On the subject of all the gay jokes in MST3K and Rifftrax…weirdly, it doesn’t bother me (or my boyfriend, hint hint.) One of my favorite MST3K episodes ever is when they pile on the gay jokes, Cave Dwellers–once I kept count when watching with a friend (also Family) and we lost track at about thirty.
Partly it’s because they’re not just pointing and saying “hurr gay” but often making clever references or jokes of it, e.g. the “It’s Speedy Delivery Guy and has he got a package!” quip from Cave Dwellers and the references to the Folsom Street Fair and “this is like when I was playing Le Cage” riffs in the Rifftrax’ed Plan 9 from Outer Space.
It sounds to me like Mr. Graves doesn’t have the right sense of humor to appreciate what the show is doing.
If the comments above are correct, and he thought that Harvey Korman should have been cast in his part in “Airplane!”, that’s an indication that he just doesn’t get it.
And there’s nothing wrong with that.
Although there are some instances where some actors get quite a few jabs we should really remember its done all in fun for entertainment. A wise man once said “Its just a show, so lets really just relax.” :wink:
Well Peter Graves didn’t exactly shine in any of the MST experiments that he was in. In It Conquered The World, Lee Van Cleef and Beverly Garland blow him off the screen. Hell, Dick Miller and Jonathan Haze blow him off the screen in that one. In Beginning Of The End, he never really took hold of the scientist with all the answers role in a way that we know John Agar or Richard Carlson could have done. In Parts: The Clonus Horror, he’s there but more along the lines of, “Hey there’s Peter Graves!” and that’s it.
He might be more embarrassed that someone (MST3K) was noticing work that he wasn’t especially proud of. But he’s always been an actor that is relatively competent but never has been an amazing screen presence. Let’s not forget that James Arness managed to scare the woohahs off of people without having to utter one word in The Thing From Another World. Speaking of Arness, Graves also managed to grab onto his brother’s coattails with hand me down roles. James Arness gets to star in THEM! which wins in every category that BOTE fails in: better cast, better story, better special effects. James Arness gets to star on Gunsmoke for 20+ years and even gets John Wayne to introduce the very first show. Peter gets Mission: Impossible where the supporting cast gets more moments to shine than he does and it barely makes it past 5-6 years mainly due to heavy cast changes whom the public was watching more than Peter’s role in any case. Peter didn’t even grab onto the comedy fame that Airplane opened the door for in the way that Leslie Nielsen or Lloyd Bridges later did. He showed up in Airplane 2, in which he was retreading the same old ground as before and besides William Shatner stole that show in any case.
In Stalag 17, and sorry for the spoilers if you haven’t seen it, it is amazing that we are forced to believe that Graves was such a good actor that he could trick the rest of the compound into thinking that he was a regular G.I. and not a Nazi. I think William Holden (who I like to think gave Graves noogies on the set) and the rest of the cast had to do double duty in not only portraying their respective roles but also having to play it like Graves’ character was a good enough actor to boot. An OK actor trying to convincingly portray a double agent in a film where every other actor could blow the doors off of his performance without a problem. I could never believe that Holden’s character would have been dumb enough as to not see right through Graves from the moment he laid eyes on him. Kudos to Holden for trying though, it must have been rough.
Graves has had a lengthy career in spite of his shortcomings, so he should have nothing to complain about because I think that he was incredibly fortunate and lucky to boot. He was an OK leading man and had to deal with a brother that found greater and wider fame than he ever did, Airplane! notwithstanding.
And if you can’t have a sense of humor about having a role in fare like It Conquered The World being poked at, the problem lies on his side of the fence.
The only jokes I’ve found questionable or out of bounds are jokes about an actor’s personal appearance, assuming it’s not altered for effect. For example, even though “Eegah” is from the kinder, gentler Joel era, I always felt Arch Hall, Jr. was undeserving of the constant ugly jokes. (Although the “bat from Ferngully” one makes me dissolve every time.)
I wonder which “few” episodes Mr. Graves has seen. Just the ones he’s in?
Funny how all the talk about James Arness being more well known than Graves. I’ve been familiar with Peter Graves for years. I didn’t actually discover James Arness until, like a few months ago.
I now wish I didn’t make a comment for this particular topic because, really, I’m sorry but it’s a silly topic. If I could delete my comment, I would. Reading the many comments on here, we’re making a big deal out of this. I, for one, am sorry I ever commented. I withdraw my comment.
Next topic, please.
It’s a well know fact throughout the TV and film industry that Peter Graves is a great talent and fine humane being. He has a great self deprecating sense of humor and is generous to a fault.
This incredible man has but one weakness,which the slightest mentioning of will send him into fits of depression and anger.
Peter Graves cannot drive a stick.
Relative to the fat joke issue, I am obese and do not care for them but I really was never disturbed be any one remark they made during any MST3K era. In Ring of Terror although some cracks were made, it seemed more at how the couple were being portray than anything. At the end Joel even extols what a nice couple they were.
During the ‘Syfy’ era, yeah there were more fat jokes but there were also a lot of skinny jokes as well (eat a sandwich!). I never felt at any time that any of these cracks were aimed to demean or degrade an entire class of people. It always seemd aimed within the context of the specific character or circumstance. I guess you can say while viewing, I just relaxed!
“did anyone read the whole comment that was written above, to much to read, write a comment not an editorial.”
What, do you get eyestrain or something? I haven’t been posting here much at all for few months, and while yes, I know I can get wordy, I was struck by the topic this time. It’s not like mine’s the only long one here, anyway. Jeez. (Part of it’s also a quote.)
Anyway, since I focused on actors earlier, I’ll add some thoughts about directors. We’re really talking here about two classes of jokes: ones aimed at actors in primary-character roles, and ones aimed at the quality of the filmmaking overall. The former is probably easy to shrug off – if it’s a crappy role and the jokes are being made mainly about the fact that the actor is even in that role in the first place, i.e. “it comes with the territory” type stuff. On the other hand, stuff directed straight at the actor personally seems rough to us. I guess the whole discussion here is about what the line is between mocking the professional and mocking the personal. I do think there’s a line, but I agree with most of the folks here in saying that movie people in general need to get over themselves. Effort or no, the audience is the ultimate judge of worth as pertains to acclaim and financial success.
Now directors . . . an actor can claim a MSTied movie was just a job, but for a director it’s a piece of creative effort that they poured much more of themselves into, in all its various aspects. And since it’s the entire movie that’s being mocked, I can see where directors might take more umbrage, because the whole thing is more personal. Obviously there have been quite a few MSTied directors who knew full well that they were just doing exploitative hack work, and they probably don’t really care. But some number have more of an attachment, and while I can empathize, I think they need to assess their work a bit more realistically. It’s not Shakespeare. If they disagree with the assessment, fine. If they’re so wound up in it that they feel bitter, that’s just their problem.
I think the whole thing is just so subjective that it’s impossible to really give a complete opinion. I’m no film expert, but I know what I like, and what totally sucks IMHO. I would assume that Coleman Francis, for example, never thought he would win an Oscar – I always felt like he made movies just because he COULD, like any other schmuck – but maybe…maybe he really thought he was the next Hitchcock, or something. Some people love “Titanic”, and some people think it’s a smarmy, manipulative, schmaltzy, totally ooky piece of crap. (Ahem.) It’s all in what you like. I would think, however, that most people (performers) would be self-aware enough to know whether they blew at something or not.
Oh wait – I HAVE been to a karaoke bar…
#64: If the comments above are correct, and he thought that Harvey Korman should have been cast in his part in “Airplane!”, that’s an indication that he just doesn’t get it.
I might have given the wrong idea here. In the interview, he doesn’t say that Harvey Korman would have been better for the part. He says that his first impression of Airplane! was that it would be better suited to Korman, but then he came round to grasping that Airplane! wasn’t that sort of movie. So I think he did get it, eventually.
Funny coincidence; I’ve been revisiting Stalag 17. It’s hard for me to judge Graves’s performance as the stoolie, because the scene where Sefton unmasks him and sends him out to die is written and staged so well that it hardly matters who was playing the mole. But a better actor would have made the reveal ten times as effective because it’s a little hard to believe that the other POWs would have been so trusting of a guy who, as played by Graves, doesn’t exactly have a sunny personality. Imagine a character actor like, say, Edmond O’Brien in the role. I think he’d be a lot more credible as someone who everyone thought was a solid guy and all-American.
It’s so sad when someone doesn’t get MST3K like that. I mean, I suppose on one hand, you could say that Peter is mad for them making fun of his work and I guess to a certain degree, that’s understandable. Of course, when you star in a movie like “Parts- The Clonus Horror” I’m not sure how you could think people WOULDN’T make fun of your work. But, I digress. The part of what he said that shows his true colors is his use of the word “idiots”. That proves that he has no clue about what MST3K was all about and the work that went into making such a show. It’s so much easier to look at it and say, “HEY! Those idiots are making fun of me!” then to respect the fact that they actually took the time TO make fun of you, instead of just ignoring your work, like the rest of the world does. Oh well….welcome to the Joe Don Baker Club of Clueless Boneheads, Mr. Graves!
I think of the words of no less than Sammy Davis Jr.:
“When people stop making fun of you, it means they no longer give a damn about you.”
Being riffed MST3K is like being poked fun at in MAD Magazine or getting a guest spot on “Sesame Street.” There’s no better sign that you’ve made it.
Ralph C. @ 69: “I, for one, am sorry I ever commented. I withdraw my comment.”
Sorry dude but it doesn’t work that way. You can’t make us forget you by posting another comment. I thought this was a silly topic too, but here we are.
And re. Zap’s # 49 post: “did anyone read the whole comment that was written above, to much to read, write a comment not an editorial.”
I, for one, appreciate the more lengthy and thoughtful posts; especially when the writer takes care with spelling and punctuation to make their ideas clear to the reader.
This goes back to what I’d said in the Titanic thread. I, personally, didn’t like it when they called one person out and just ripped on him or her for the length of the experiment. Especially if it was for someone being ugly or fat, things some would consider to be out of their control.
That said, I think how one associated with the film reacts is directly related to how they were treated in the experiment. Russell Johnson mentioned his appreciation for the MST movie because it gave his flick an audience. He also wasn’t ripped to shreds in it, just a few Gilligan’s Island riffs.
And let’s face it, it also comes down to individual personalities. Some people roll with the punches, others don’t appreciate someone making a living by mocking them. Depends on the person and situation.
I always thought they were a bit tough on Coleman Francis. Sure his movies were…ahem..a little dry, but they were interesting stories, some with a point. But to watch him get ragged on for the script, directing and his acting makes me feel almost guilty sometimes.
Almost. :wink:
Fascinating! The Brains always seemed to have so much respect for Peter Graves. I don’t know why he’s so grumpy.
Now Joe Don Baker has a good reason to be displeased. They were pretty mean to him in both “Mitchell” and “Final Justice”. But then again, the Brains aren’t usually mean unless they have a reason to be. For instance, Gallagher.
Ralph #69 – (Graham Chapman) Now look, I’m going to stop this thread the moment it gets too silly.
Finnias Jones #77 – Yeah, but how many words does it take to say “Yes, Pete’s justified” or “No, he’s grumpy” and then add a little fortune cookie wisdom? Stephen King’s already perfected wordiness.
Jokes about appearance are something that can be highly subjective and dependent on context. The first thing that popped to my mind was calling Robert Z’Dar “a catcher’s mitt with eyes.” Granted, his unusual appearance is probably one of his selling points as an actor, but as a joke, the riff comes close to being, “He’s ugly! Ha ha!”
And yet, I don’t have the same reaction to the bit about Mike’s big prosthetic chin (perhaps because part of the point is how over-the-top Mike is being), or “Where does he even store his acorns?”
Actually, the catcher’s mitt comment was just the first MST riff to come to mind. The first riff, or rather group of related riffs, I thought of was the overkill in “World Enough and Time” about Scotty’s accent. At some point, I think making fun of the lack of professional polish on an amateur performance done for love of the thing is bringing a cannon to a knife fight: so easy, it borders on the cruel.
By the way of contrast, I liked the “emo Spock” jokes. (And that’s even though I liked the actor’s performance.) The jokes were an amusing subjective judgment about a deliberate performance choice by an actor.
As for the philosophy that crap is crap, and no one deserves a break… have you ever seen a fourth grade play that was ready for Broadway? Would it be fair to excoriate the productions in public on that basis, and the ten-year-old performers for being unpolished and grossly miscast in adult roles? Obviously, that’s an extreme example, but I’m just trying to make the point that there is a line somewhere.
I was always supprised that Robby Benson was acctually pretty good about his treatment on the show. I mean they destoryed him and he was just like “Oh well, atleast it’s funny”.
I always thought Raul Julia wouldn’t take his treatment in stride. Not only are we going to make fun of you but we’re going to make fun of you 3 years after you died.
#75–Well, i think if he saw Beginning of the End, he might have thought they were cleverer; but if he saw the Clonus riffs (“Biography!”x100) he might well have thought they were idiots.
I’d have to go back and check, but the impression I have is that they spent a lot of time making fun of the Mitchell character in Mitchell, but made more fun of Joe Don Baker himself during Final Justice…
I am going to say that those who should be appropriately miffed are not any of the actors, directors, etc from the movies. No, I think the ones who should be the most appropriately miffed are the countries and locations the films take place in! Russia, Finland, Sweden, Japan, Holland, Canada, wherever the Hell Castle of Fu Manchu was set, MALTA, etc. Yes, these places have been riffed with constant mercilessness and I, for one, think they should have stood up and declared “No more!” years ago!
What MST’ed movie was Robby Bensen involved with?
#74, Edmund O’Brien is a terrific choice for the mole in Stalag 17! I know this is way off topic but I have loved that movie since I was 9 or 10 and even then I had problems with Graves in the role. I wholeheartedly agree with you that if it were a more all-American familiar face with plenty of talent as an established character actor, it would be more of a shock when we discover who the traitor really is and just how good this spy really is at working undercover and how good William Holden is in locking on him as the Nazi in their midst.
Gotta love the insipidness when it comes to saying “oh how dare they make any comments about a guy who died YEARS AGO”. Did they make any remarks about Lee Van Cleef or Raul Julia’s deaths in the MSTed episodes? Were either actors killed on the set of those movies? Did they die as a result of someone not liking their performances in those movies?
No? Then shaddup about it.
I can see both sides of it, myself. On the one hand, I think of it as a bit like a celebrity roast for actors who time has neglected (although I’ll agree that they did start to get a little meaner once Joel and Trace left; they gave Joe Don Baker a pretty hard pounding in “Final Justice”, for example.) So in that sense, I think it’s a well-meaning jest that celebrates these people’s careers.
On the other hand, celebrity roasts are generally done by friends of the actor/director/writer, not by strangers; some of the same jokes that would be taken as friendly jabs from friends seem mean-spirited from strangers. So I don’t blame Peter Graves for feeling kind of hurt, even though (or perhaps because) I don’t think he sees quite where the show is coming from.
Ultimately, I know what I’d tell Peter Graves if I met him; MST3K has given me a chance to see a lot of his lesser-known material, and given me a greater appreciation of him as an actor. I think that’s probably a good thing, even if I didn’t see those movies the way he wanted me to.
I don’t get the comments about it being bad because they riffed on someone who died either.
Every person there ever was, is or will be is going to die or has died. Is this some kind of new revelation? I hate to break it, but you who are reading this will die too.
Many of the those old movies they did had people who were already dead at the time of the riffing.
How is it any different whether they just died right around when it was riffed, or they died earlier or later?
I am not sure I understand the logic. Are they saying it’s not nice to riff on someone because they died? Why then wouldnt you say that we shouldn’t riff on anyone at all because whoever it is, they are going to die at some point, so knowing that, we should be pre-emptively nice?
Why should the dimension of time be a factor?
This is too confusing for me.
Does Mike’s bed exist if there’s no Mike?
You better do an easier one!
i’m not sure “justified” is really the right way to look at it. no one wants to be the butt of a joke to be sure and how far is too far is just a subjective thing.
i can see him not being too happy with the Biography references or Peter Graves at the University of Minnesota since that’s basically just knocking his voice/delivery but you can ask 1000 people if it’s hitting below the belt or not and end up with 50% yes 50% no.
the entire nature of riffing a bad movie and the people involved is to make fun of all the above. no one comes out smelling like a rose. that’s the point of this type of humor and it isn’t for everyone and that’s ok. we all have to decide for ourselves if it’s amusing or not.
i’m also not really sure the guys were mean to Kathy Ireland either..i still don’t know if that astoundingly annoying voice was really how she talks normally and the character she played really was a bit of an idiot. As pretty as she is, she wasn’t a born actress. but again, totally subjective…
Mr. Graves should have been happy they spared him. He got off light.
I can’t possibly fault Peter Graves for not liking MST-3000. I think it’s a niche taste. We are all very biased for it. Just try turning someone on to MST-3000, Red Dwarf or Phil Hendrie. Just try.
Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater.
:P
I’ll weigh in with more folks who loved their treatment —
In the Shout factory release of Soultaker the bonus feature has Joe Estevez saying his kids loved the treatment etc
On the Final Justice disc in the same collection, Greydon Clark as very complimentary
heck, even Bruce J. Mitchell gets what MST3K is all about … … an interview with the man is at http://www.d1041111.dotsterhost.com/mst3k/special-events_interview_bruce-j-mitchell-main.html
Bruce J. Mitchell was Rowsdower in The Final Sacrifice just in case anyone did not have a clue :twisted:
some other interviews
http://alleged.home.comcast.net/~alleged/cory2.htm features Cory Geryak of Future Wax … er … War fame
two of the talents in Zombie Nightmare … http://www.d1041111.dotsterhost.com/mst3k/special-events_interview_zombie-nightmare-main.html
more interviews … Beverly Garland, The Sklar Brothers, etc … http://www.d1041111.dotsterhost.com/mst3k/special-events.html
David Giancola of Time Chasers fame …. http://www.d1041111.dotsterhost.com/mst3k/special-events_interview_david-giancola.html
Funny, I thought Peter Graves was cool with MST3K since he did that Darkstar thing with them.
It’s hard to tell how serious he’s being in this interview but Peter Graves will always be awesome as far as I’m concerned. And his “He learned too late that man is a feeling creature” speech from It Conquered The World is hilarious. Some people have complained that he’s wooden but he does have some sort of charisma that makes you want to watch or listen to him.
Honestly it’s surprising there haven’t been more people angry over MST3K, considering how hard it is to actually make a movie. Maybe directors and actors who are peeved just don’t want to draw more attention to it.
As for the idiots comment, MST3K works for me when it’s smarter than the movie. Sometimes it wasn’t and it can be kind of infuriating when somebody just doesn’t understand something.
the http://alleged.home.comcast.net/ site has other interviews on it as well …
I’ll stop posting links and corrections to my earlier posts now …
#86 What MST’ed movie was Robby Bensen involved with?
Episode #403 City Limits
#80 Ralph #69 – (Graham Chapman) Now look, I’m going to stop this thread the moment it gets too silly
HILARIOUS!!!