Movie: (1974 TV series; 1987 compilation movie) A trio of young people take refuge in cryogenic capsules during an earthquake, and awaken in a world populated by intelligent apes.
First shown: 7/13/91
Opening: Using Tom as a T-ball stand, Joel shags some flies to Crow, breaks a window and causes explosive decompression
Invention exchange: Gypsy fixes the hole and warns them not to do it again but of course they do. Joel shows off his cellulite phone, while the Mads demonstrate their miracle baby growth formula
Host segment 1: J&tB present: “Why doesn’t Johnny care?” A film by Bell Labs
Host segment 2: J&tB present their version of “Inherit the Wind”
Host segment 3: Crow presents an “ape fashion minute”
End: J&tB sing the Sandy Frank song, Joel reads a letter, and in Deep 13, Baby pushes the button
Stinger: “Johnny, be careful.” “I don’t care!”
(169 votes, average: 4.38 out of 5)
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• Back when we did the KTMA version of this, I wrote that the episode got “dragged down by the film, which is just a big giant carbuncle of a movie. Though it’s much funnier, of course, I’m not a big fan of the season 3 version either.” I based that statement on my memory of past viewings, but I gotta say, this time around was a pleasant surprise. I found myself laughing a lot and the movie, cut to incomprehensible ribbons though it is, moves along at a breezy, watchable pace. The host segments are all giggle-worthy too. It just goes to show you how your opinions of episodes can change over time.
• As most of you know, this movie was cut together from an entire season’s worth of TV adventures. If you watched the KTMA version, it was barely followable, but you could sort of find the thread of the action. But THIS incarnation has ALSO been cut for time by BBI and, intentionally or not, the result is a series of scenes, mostly action-y set pieces, that have little or no relation to each other. The overall final product is totally unfathomable. But, for riffing, it works.
• References.
• This episode is included in Shout’s Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection: Vol XXII.
• During his second at bat, Joel’s knocks off what’s left of Tom’s head. Ouch. They cover with a handy plastic coffee mug.
• Joel says “You potched up the hole.” They keep going.
• Crow’s baseball glove falls off (you can see the duct tape) and Joel just rolls right with it.
• The baby is played by little Eli Kenneth Mallon, who is now not so little (he’s in his 20s).
• The miracle growth baby is sound guy Tim Scott, in the first of two appearances in that role.
• When they enter the theater after the opening, Tom is still wearing a coffee mug and Crow is still netless.
• Joel continues his strict style in the theater, AGAIN threatening to dismember Crow when he utters a pun.
• Just a really dumb line from the movie: Somebody notes that earthquakes are possible but the Dr. Lee insists “nothing will happen suddenly.” Wait, what?
• As we watch the monkey wake up, it sure sounds like Joel says “Shit.” It might be “shoot” though.
• Crow asks Joel: “You said ‘bowling ball’ earlier. What did that mean?” Well, Crow, Joel was reacting to a shot of sun-bleached skull that looked vaguely like a bowling ball–albeit a white one.
• During segment 1, I love that Crow provides the projector noise, and that Tom misses a few sprockets, only to be nudged back into place by Joel. I think we have a few former A/V squad members on the writing staff.
• As they return to the theater after segment 2, Joel is carrying the cardboard cutout of Judge Wapner (somebody sent them that??) and sails it toward the screen saying, “Fly, judgie! Fly!” His Honor gets some good distance!
• Crow reenters the theater after segment 3 still wearing his hat.
• Tom’s wearing a weird monkey mask during the final segment.
• Cast/crew roundup: Screenwriter Keiiche Abe also wrote “Fugitive Alien” (and, of course, “Star Force”). Cinematographer Yoshihiro Mori also worked on “Mighty Jack.” American editor William L. Cooper Jr. also edited “Mighty Jack.” Score composer Toshiaki Tsushima also did music for “The Green Slime.” In front of the camera, Wataru Omae was also in “Godzilla Vs. the Sea Monster” and Hiroyuki Kawase was also in “Godzilla Vs. Megalon.”
• CreditsWatch: Colleen Henjum moves from contributing writer to writer for this and the next two episodes. Additional Contributing Writers: Lynn-Anne Freise, Craig Tollifson, Tom Wedor, Jann L. Johnson, Alexandra B. Carr. It was the first of 14 episodes in season 3 that a guy named Brian Wright did the audio. Dr. F and Frank are still “Special Guest Villians” (misspelled) and Dr. F’s name is again spelled “Forrestor.” This is the last time in the Comedy Central era that Jim Mallon appears in the writers list.
• Fave riff: “Harder…” Honorable mention: “Home, where I comb my facey.” “Johnny is a walking faux pas.”
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It was not the first episode I saw (that would be Sidehackers), but I became a MSTie after I watched this episode (Frank was right!).
This one is amusing throughout, but doesn’t really have any big stand out moments by themselves. It’s just an overall make-me-smile kind of thing.
“Off to meet my doom, mom, I’ll see you after school.”
“Kitty! It’s Snowball!”
*gasp* “It’s just a DOOR.”
“Today on involuntary cliff diving…”
“What is this, Planet of the Fops?”
“Is he gonna tell people he spilled Nair on his face?”
“Doesn’t anybody have peripheral vision in this movie?”
“You know, it’s funny how film directors always make air vents big enough to crawl through.”
“Do the words ‘shallow grave’ mean anything to you?”
“Hm. Kid talkin’ to hay – nothin’ wrong with that.”
“Hurts, don’t it? Bye.”
Gay bar?
I love this episode. It’s definitely one of my all-time favorites.
“Godo, help!”
“Go to hell!? He’s trying to save you!”
I don’t care!
Sandy Frank/Sandy Frank/gads around the house all day!
Isn’t this what Mr. Frank did with Robotech? Completely change the context of the storyline by translating with little concern for what is actually being said? Then of course, having to cover for the million scenes cut to fit into a sixty-five minute timeslot.
Actually, this is one of the few episodes where you really want to compare with the KTMA version. Since the cuts used by the Brains are different in each version, it’s actually interesting, although Johnny seems to care a lot more in the KTMA version.
Either way, the “movie” makes absolutely no sense since the editing ratio seems to be at 1:1000. :-)
Still, the “Why Doesn’t Johnny Care” skit never fails to make me smile, and that Colonel Sanders ape! Absolutely ridiculous. And GAY-bar? Please.
“Oh no, it hit the plot contrivance switch” Tom Servo
Then that idiotic ending. They’re trying to explain what happened, and I don’t think even the scientists figured out what’s going on. Send your people into the far future, then double talk them back to the present – and like the best of MST’s “heroes,” they learn nothing from the trip. And what’s with the saucer? And where is Godo going anyway? Seems pretty nonchalant for someone who just got pulled a couple thousand years from his own time.
But the girl’s kinda cute, though I wish she showed a little more common sense. Johnny is your typical friend-of-Gamera in tight shorts. Yech.
“Nothing will happen suddenly.” Seems to describes the whole plot, really…
I would love to check out the entire series, just to see if it’s any crazier than it already is.
EDITOR: Hmm, we seem to have cut out the scene where they explain why Gaybar hates humans.
SANDY FRANK: Okay. Any shot we can use to give some kind of explanation?
EDITOR: Well, there’s that scene where Godo sorta kinda pushes him down a tiny little hill. I think they tripped.
SANDY FRANK: I guess that’s okay. Let’s get some beer.
EDITOR: Wait, I just found another shot showing the flying saucer.
SANDY FRANK: Okay, add that. Now, where’s the beer?
Makes sense. But Johnny doesn’t care…
>36
Correct. Rights to Time of the Apes has since reverted back to its production company in Japan (Tsuburaya).
Seeing how hard its been for any of the Japanese episodes to get released until recently I suspect getting the rights from Sandy Frank would have been easier.
The Gamera episodes getting a DVD release are more of a fluke than a sign of things to come, IMO. Gamera is at least a known and somewhat popular monster movie series. Absolutely nobody knows about or likes Time of the Apes except for MST3K fans who primarily enjoy seeing it being riffed on. And I suspect Tsuburaya is as protective of their properties as Godzilla’s owner Toho is.
Not quite as wildly enthusiastic about this one as most…but it’s still pretty damn good. I’m somewhat with Sampo on this one as how much I enjoy it varies quite a bit from one viewing to another. Not sure why.
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After the massive shenanigans involving Ultraman and Chaiyo Productions I’ve heard Tsuburaya tends to be a lot more cautious about their distribution deals.
They licensed a couple of Ultraman movies and the Tiga series for the US, but that’s about it off the top of my head.
As for the assembling of Time of the Apes, a guy I know online who claims to have worked in the Arabic dubbing biz (a region that has a big appetite for Japanese SFX shows) mentioned that Tsuburaya would, along with selling a whole series, make deals just selling clips. A big deal monster effects shot costing more than a couple of people talking, and so on. That’s theoretically why Attack Of The Supermonsters has that bit from Ultraman… umm, whichever one, in the opening mayhem. That would also be how Mighty Jack managed to loose all the giant monsters from the show when it was Sandy Franked.
I’m a little late to the proceedings today. I just couldn’t keep my eyes open any longer than 5am last night after sitting through “Time Of The Apes.” But I got plenty to say about this “masterpiece.”
I saw this movie before I saw it on MST3K. That must have been around the mid-80s on either WOR or TLA, back before the cable company took those channels off of my lineup. I thought it was a Planet Of The Apes movie, and after seeing those movies, I was confused. They didn’t go along with my memory of this movie. Later, thanks to MST3K, I discovered this was merely a ripoff.
Thought/Comments:
I’m sure some of these have been pointed out already, but here goes-
-Airlock gets broken in the opening segment. That’s a precursor to Crow digging a hole to Earth in MST3K: The Movie.
-Frank’s pennant sports the Gizmonics logo.
-What’s Eli Mallon up to now? I take it he’s Jim’s kid?
-Another Issac Asimov riff. Guess we can’t pin those on Josh anymore.
-Sandy Frank song! Man that’s some good stuff!
-I Don’t Care! Always brings a smile to my face.
-It’s Jamie Gumm’s van! It puts the lotion on it’s skin. I think it’s cute! (At least one of the Brains was obsessed with “Silence Of The Lambs”!)
-“It’s just like they’re really dead. Only they’re not” – But there souls are!
-“Where are we?” – We’re tied to a tree.
-“Why are there only apes here?” – Seriously, that’s your question? Not why do they have guns, clothes and drive vehicles? Ah, translation issues…
-Lancelot Link reference. I used to watch that show when it was on Nickelodeon. References like this and the My Three Sons reference earlier in the movie weren’t all that dated back in 1991, since these shows had either just left syndication or were still being shown on the likes of Nick-At-Nite.
-If you can’t work out 30 minutes a day, you’ don’t deserve a hot date – repeated in a much later Mike host segment.
-Host Segment 1 is a classic. Love Crow’s projector sounds, and when Joel smacks him and Servo to get the film back on track!
-The cheese phone is ringing! We won’t see the cheese phone for a few more experiments.
-“With this knife, I’m not scared of anyone!” – You’re dumber than those rocks, kid. Johnny may be more annoying than the Gamera kid!
-“Silence!” – Of The Lambs. Which leads to the second time this episode “It’s puts the lotion on it’s skin,” this time done unenthusiastically by Crow.
-Godo leads to Bobo. I love how they do callbacks to this era, even in the later years.
-Judge Wapner cardboard cutout. This is the first cardboard cutout, I think, way before Hobgoblins or Riding With Death.
-You could write a book about Wizard Of Oz references alone from MST3K! My guess is Joel’s the big Oz fan.
-Are those Monkey Boy jeans you’re wearing? Great double meaning! (It’s a takeoff on a Bugle Boy jeans commercial that was played ENDLESSLY back when. And a riff on good old Monkey Boy from Lost Continent!)
-Sweating like a lemur! (Joey the Lemur!)
-Love, Monkey Style – riffs on Love American Style culminate in a much later Mike host segment. And this was another show Nick-At-Nite was showing back when.
-Hello, hello… where’s the other guy?
-Is this the first appearance of “dickweed”?
-Love the Time/Life Old West Book Series riffs.
-Home, where I comb my facey.
-Pepe running in slo motion is good old fashioned nightmare fuel.
-I don’t think you’ll ever get the smell out of the seats!
-Oh, Pepe! (running her over)
-I did it, I finally did it! Damn me all to hell!
-My brother lives in Florida! (Stranded In Space callback. This riff gets used a few more times in the series)
-Crow’s beret suddenly disappears
-I’m my own grandfather!
-Anything you can fit into a mailbox – No wonder they got weird stuff in the mail, Servo was encouraging it
-Gizmonics brand baby powder at the end!
Great four star episode. Starts strong, lags in the middle, with a big finish. Next week, one of my absolute al-time favorites!
@13 -Servo: “It keeps the hot side hot, and the cold side cold!”
A McDLT reference! Love it! Kids, look it up on youtube, there’s a hysterical Jason Alexander commercial for this long discontinued McDonalds sandwich.
@40 you know, I used to watch Groovy Movies on USA. That’s probably where I saw this first, too
@42 I think whoever on the writing staff who made the Mr. Dreysdale riffs (as well as the Bell Labs stuff) was gone by the time they got to SciFi
@44 Cell phone, cellulite phone…, yeah it’s a weak premise.
I want to like this one. . .I really do. But I find it near impossible. And I’ve been trying for years!
I’ve been a big fan of the Planet of the Apes movies for a long time, most of my life, so after I became a fan of MST3K and I got into tape trading back in the mid-1990’s, this was one of the first episodes that I ordered from a dude online. To say the least, I was underwhelmed. Still am. But dang, I want to love this one, but can’t.
My main complaint mirrors some of the complaints about last weeks episode, STRANDED IN SPACE, which was, THIS MOVIE IS TOO DAMN BROWN! I mean, jeez, was this thing shot in sepia-tone? I would think so if Oscar Wilde and Colonel Sanders both didn’t show up during the movie, adding a splash of color each. TIME OF THE APES is drab and monochromatic and the movie doesn’t make a lick of sense, and I’ve seen it over half a dozen times now. I know, I know. It’s pieced together from a TV show, it’s a patchy movie to begin with…but sheeesh. And what poor ape makeup…it’s so bad it worse than the background masks in BATTLE for the Planet of the Apes.
And you know, the riffing is only so-so and the Invention Exchange is fairly weak and the Host Segments are only 1/3. HostSegment #1 is great, the “Why Doesn’t Johnny Care?” skit is full of quotables (No one stays long in Johnny’s world. Would you?) and is the standout of the entire episode. The ape fashion show in HS#3 is pretty okay, but in HS#2, Joel’s lack of enthusiasm mirrors my own. . .snoozzzzzzze.
RIFFS AND THINGS:
There are a couple Silence of the Lambs riffs in this one too (just like last week) namely the “it puts the lotion on its skin” line. Like I pointed out last week, Silence of the Lambs was relatively new back in 1991 when this episode aired.
Joel: “Off to meet my doom, Mom. See you after school.”
Servo: “Must you scream every observation?”
Some good drug humor:
Joel: “Whoa. High grade weed.”
Joel: “That’s good weeeed! *cough*cough* ”
Servo: “Nicholas Cage in Wild at Heart.” ——> Also a new-ish film back in 1991.
Joel: “A bug zapper! I check in but I can’t check out!”
Servo: “It’s a Donovan video.”
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Meh, only a so-so episode for me. Sampo’s Theorem in full effect here.
Only a 3/5.
“I Don’t Care.”
Another one of my all-time favorite episodes, I think I even referred to it somewhere as the first really perfect MST3K episode. I can pretty much watch this one anytime and the riffs stay fresh and hilarious, the host segments remain brilliant, and the movie stays weirdly appealing.
Another first ballot Hall of Fame episode for me.
“I don’t care!”
I try not to get hung up on the subject film too much, bad films are the point… but this one is a tough slog. I watched this again a few weeks ago, and once last year, as well as on air. And each time I think to myself wow i don’t rememeber MST doing any 5 hour episodes and checking my watch and it’s only been 65 minutes and I scream and cry until finally, several weeks after it first started, it mercifully comes to an end.
Don’t get me wrong, there is much to love both in the theater and during the host segments, but the movei itself, for reasons I can’t quite put my finger on, kills me..it seems sooooooo long and slow and pointless.. it’s torture.
anyway, I will hang my head in shame nad give it a deuce.
I LOL’d. :laugh:
Don’t feel too bad, Petite, I gave it two stars as well. Clearly, we’re in the minority.
@ pondoscp #58: The term dickweed dates to the KTMA episodes (though I can’t recall right off in which episode it was first used).
I think there are quite a few Japanese TV/movie fans who love stuff like Time of the Apes with or without Joel/Bots help. ;)
69 comments and not one reference to
“‘Ten Hut!”
“Fllllllinnnngggggg Crap!”
YouTube – ?80s Commercials – McDLT [Jason Alexander]??. Gawd that’s goofy.
Yes, the 70s were brown. Earth tones, man. Got to get back to Mother Nature. Dig? They were also lots of rainbow hues; cue up a Land of the Lost rerun or something. Also lots of shiny metallic glitter; cue up Saturday Night Fever or something. Like, wow. You had to be there. I was just a little kid and quite the spaz from sugary cereals and all this sensory overload. Time for a Billy Beer.
Do the “This Date in MSTory” threads just get deleted every day? I posted about an ultra-obscure ref in Master Ninja in the last one and it now seems to be gone. Have to watch G vs Barugon and note a nice juicy obscure ref to track down for the next thread, which presumably will be there for all time.
I love TotAs. Any high spirited goofy flick like this seems like easy pickings. The more somber and/or slow flicks are the ones that require a bit of patience for me.
How about an “I Don’t Care!” T Shirt with Johnny’s mug on it?
24Hour–yes the MSTory threads are just ephemeral conversations for the day and are not kept when the new day dawns. Sorry…
I’m with those of you who find this episode interminable. I’ll give it another shot tonight, but I have little faith that I’m gonna suddenly love it.
But I’m really not a Season Three MSTie, I think.
Sampo – gotcha.
Another fond look back at those bygone days of rickety 16mm: YouTube – ?Mad TV – Joe Namath Venereal Disease Educational Video??.
@ Kali #54 Sandy Frank had absolutely nothing to do with Robotech. Carl Macek put Robotech together from three unrelated Japanese TV shows, but actually the first Robotech series, The Macross Saga, is pretty darn close to the Japanese original (the third series is also pretty close to the original as well, it was really only the second one that suffered the most as they had to fit it between the other two). Also given when Robotech was on the air (mid 1980’s) it’s absolutely amazing that so much of the subtext and more mature subject matter of the original shows made it through so intact. Robotech was actually quite faithful to the intent of the three original shows it was made up of. It was a FAR cry from what Sandy Frank did with the Japanese shows and movies that he imported like Time of the Apes.
As for this episode it is one of my all time favorites. I had already been a huge fan of MST since the second season, but this was one of those episodes that just further solidified my lifelong love of the show.
#58/66 The first time i heard Dickweed was SST DEATH FLIGHT. But i’m sure SAMPO would be the man to ask. Sampo…..
This one was ok, certainly had some very funny moments, but overall not a particularly strong episode. Watched it several times, but apart from it being a cheesy ripoff of Planet of the Apes, it’s not one that tends to stick out in my memory. Three out of Five Stars.
I’ve heard that “Saru no Gundan” is a decent series by itself, but let’s face it, Sandy Frank could take several episodes of “The Wire” and make incomprehensible hash of it.
Cast trivia: Wataru Omae (the Commander) was one of those recognizable bit players in many Toho sci-fi epics; his biggest role was as Joseph Cotten’s silent first mate in Ishiro Honda’s “Latitude Zero”. Baku Hatakeyama (Gebar) achieved a degree of immortality as the original Yellow Ranger on “Secret Task Force Goranger”, the first of the “Power Rangers” shows. And while Hiroyuki Kawase (Roku-chan in “Godzilla vs. Megalon”) is listed in the credits, I don’t believe he was in the episodes used for this movie.
As for the MST episode, it has three great host segments — “Why Johnny Doesn’t Care,” the fashion show, and the Sandy Frank song — and Joel & the Bots making war noises as Pepe waves goodbye never ceases to have me rolling.
Crow’s questioning the bowling ball line appears to have been Trace really getting into character, as Crow, with his bowling pin beak, seems offended by the mention of it when they say it earlier.
I’ve always wondered what Mike called that little musical ditty that plays during the Ape fashion show segment. It’s used a lot over the years, usually with fashion related segments. It’s very catchy instrumental.
I’ve seen this episode probably the most times of any episode in the show’s run. A day or two after it premiered, my family and I went on a two week vacation to visit family, making this the first episode I’d taped on VHS. I brought it with me and watched the hell out of it, over and over. I haven’t watched it fully since the early 90s, yet every quote in every post above? I can instantly hear the original riff in my hear precisely (pretty much every riff in the entire “Pop Music” sequence during the movie has me rolling on the floor laughing). Funny thing about “potched”, I only just now realize it was a mistake and not some obscure term for blocking a hole!
As for Army of the Apes, I’ve seen a few Japanese cult show websites that sell bootleg copies of the official DVD release of the original show. Never any English subtitle versions, but if someone had enough money, they could easily obtain the show and have a fansubber group do the 26 episodes.
@#71. . . .Did you really post a link to a clip from MadTV? ??? There should be, like, a penalty. Sampo, throw a yellow flag or something, call foul.
@73: I just looked it up, and according to Sampo, dickweed was first used in the KTMA edition of Gamera Vs. Zigra.
@#78: Wasn’t going to bother responding, but then realized that there could never possibly be a more apt place to say to someone on this board that…
I don’t care!
They’re afraid of tripe???
5 stars
@ 68 – The McDLT’s were actually pretty good in their day–And then, of course, Wendy’s came along and popularized putting fresh lettuce in hamburgers, McD did the Arch Deluxe, and lost their shirt.
Oh, that, and the packaging involved insane amounts of styrofoam, just before the widespread green policy of officially declaring styrofoam to be a Product of Satan.
We may LAUGH at the enthusiasm with which marketing kept the Hot parts Hot and the Cold parts Cold, but it was better than the Big Macs of no known construction.
I find this episode a little easier to sit through than Fugitive Aliens 1 & 2, neither of which I’ve seen to the end. Time of the Apes is kind of funny without the Brains, just because of the costumes and the weird editing. Not a favorite episode though.
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I just watched this episode the other day as part of my “Watch the entire run of MST3K in order” project. I missed the encounter with the computer at the end, which was in the KTMA episode. If that had been there, the movie may have felt more tied together. Nevertheless, it was still enjoyable to hear the scripted riffs. I’m thrilled that this movie and Mighty Jack will be in the next dvd set.
I don’t care… for this episode.
I kid. I rate it five filth flings.
This episode and Fugitive Alien are the very first episodes I remember watching. Therefore, there will always be love.
It had enough goofiness to entertain the 13 year old version of me who stumbled across it. Pepe. Need I say more?
Home, where I comb my facey.
MST is home to me.
Godoh (Godot?) should have kept the beard.
Time of the Apes passes the Bechdel Test. Caroline and Katherine have multiple non-male conversations. Also when Pepe and her mom reunite.
I love how the DVD menu has the Plot Contrivance Switch clearly marked.
The big question is how much of the movie’s stupidity was due to the source material and how much was due to it being a twenty-odd episode TV serial that was hacked down to feature film length.
While HS 1 and 3 are hilarious, 2 is a mediocre affair further weakened by Joel’s leaden delivery.
Regarding the stinger, this is one of those occasions where their choice was absolutely perfect.
@ #23: So what was Uncle Charlie’s Japanese name?
EricJ #40: Why do they make “Bell Labs” jokes for most of season 3 & 4, but don’t recognize Frank Baxter when he shows up in “The Mole People”?)
My guess is that it was Joel, Trace, and/or Frank who were familiar with Frank Baxter.
@ #50: I confess I only watched the dub version of Sergeant Frog, which I understand took some liberties. Which episode was that?
@ #54: I’m pretty sure Mr. Frank wasn’t involved with Robotech. Perhaps you’re thinking of Battle of the Planets, nee Gatchaman.
Favorite riffs
Don’t dub with your mouth full.
Off to meet my doom, Mom. See you after school.
It hit the Plot Contrivance Switch.
I’ll bet Johnny cares now.
“It doesn’t look like the institute.”
The one I was committed to.
“Keep your head down.”
In shame.
“How did you get to this country?”
Our mom dropped us off.
“Is this where you live?”
No, this is my summer home. What do you think?
“This is Katherine. She works with my uncle.”
As a geisha.
“Those clothes are very torn.”
They’re going to have to come off. Heh heh heh heh.
You kids behave, or I’ll turn this plot around.
“I do not hurt innocent people.”
I have assistants for that.
They’re going to give him a twenty-one turd salute.
What is this, Planet of the Fops?
“If you had not disobeyed, and followed my instructions, things would be different.”
Not better, just different.
I smell a rat. Oh, it’s you, Pepe.
She was awake about ten slaps ago.
I think it’s a group of Castro impersonators.
Huh. I’m surprised that I never noticed that. I wonder if it was a matter of the business end of things taking up too much of his time or just simply “I CAN’T TAKE IT ANYMORE THESE MOVIES ARE GONNA KILL ME!”
@ #91: More likely the former, since he gets listed as a Contributing Writer (meaning he doesn’t take part in the group viewing sessions) until some time in Season 8.
I also wouldn’t mind seeing the original series this is based on, so I could find out just what was going on. This and “Key of Keys”, the spy movie Woody Allen used for “What’s Up, Tiger Lilly?”
And, years later, Kevin’s Dalek impression was much better.
Hit the plot contrivance switch!
Great episode! Not any stand out moments for me, but a strong outing all the way through.
Unfortunately, every time I hear them use that music from host segment 3, all I can think of is Jackie Coogan in lingerie. I long for death.
I STILL don’t understand why at the end after they’ve returned, NO ONE notices the guy that looks just like Godou! Not even the slightest reaction, and it doesn’t look like it was something that was cut, either. Of course, I also don’t understand why they’re being kept for medical care in a dark, dank looking, likely underground facility. Or why their rooms are so far apart.
@20-Greasyfries ANIMETAL! Wooo! I forgot that they did this one.
As I said back in K17, the original theme song for this (of course missing from this Sandy Frank-ified version) was sung by Shimon Masato, who also did the infamous Jet Jaguar song (Godzilla and Jet Jaguar Punch Punch Punch!).
@23-Spalanzani So, going by those titles, we missed them meeting an old robot, and an ape with a Human fetish.
@54-Kali #72 Cronkite Moonshot is correct, Sandy Frank had nothing to do with Robotech. He did however, as #90 Sitting Duck said, bring us Battle of The Planets & G-Force, aka Science Ninja Team Gatchaman.
Hurts, don’t it? Bye!
LMAO, Uncle Scientist totally checks out Caroline up and down and Joel grumbles “Hey…”
@93 – This site has a fairly complete description of the series.
http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Saru_no_Gundan_%28Army_of_the_Apes%29_/_Time_of_the_Apes
Actually, it doesn’t sound half bad. Goofiness and questionable science aside, there’s some interesting ideas there. IMHO.
@94 – That link has a pic of the robot they meet. It makes Bela’s robot from the Phantom Creeps look sleek and tasteful.
You watched the dub? EWWW. Do NOT watch the dub. (Except as a cynical cautionary postmortem about what happens when the anime industry gives up its integrity and sets out to smooch Cartoon Network’s big fat pothead hinder.) “Liberties” is a thoroughly unwarranted compliment.
As for Time of the Snakes, I dimly remember that episode, but guess that would be up in the triple-digit episodes we’re never likely to see over here, when they were down to some truly expert-only anime/drama-refs that even embarrassed me to get.
If the Joel years had gone past five, they’d be pulling out the ultra-arcane refs by that point, too.
Yep. And six years earlier, at that.
(And maybe I’m being naive about it, but he doesn’t come off as so much of an Evil Skeletor in his interview on the Shout disk:
He got a few dub deals, sold them, that’s what you did back then…Even for occasionally being a jerk about licensing, he certainly doesn’t seem to deserve the cathartic schoolyard Coleman Francis-izing he had to take from the Brains just because they had to sit through Apes and the Gameras in the KTMA days AND the Season 3 days.)
This is one of those episodes that kind of slogged through my consciousness and was forgotten and, when re-viewed years later, still kind of slogged through my consciousness and was forgotten. This is definitely a case of the movie being so weak that it drags Joike’n’the Bots down with it — like Alien From L.A., Space Travelers and They Live By Night.
This may sound weird, but my main problem with this episode is that the movie isn’t bad enough. I really loves me some bad movies, but they have to be really, really, really bad or else they’re merely crappy. Those lame ape costumes where the mouths don’t move when the actors inside talk — hell, even Kevin Murphy’s ape costume in the SciFi episodes had a mouth that moved — gave the promise of true badness, but it just couldn’t achieve a critical mass of badness.
Even now, after twenty-odd years, I think they could’ve ditched this movie to make room for Plan 9 From Outer Space.
For that matter, they could’ve ditched Castle Of Fu Manchu and both of the Master Ninja movies to make room for Cat Women Of The Moon, Astro Zombies and Frankenstein Meets The Space Monster.
It’s been mentioned that this movie is drab and dark, but at least we can see that’s because of the actual filmmaking choices, not because this is a beer-soaked print like the biker films or “Stranded in Space”. This was actually a good print, which only highlighted how incoherent everything is. At one point it looks like there’s a standoff in a Wild West town. Huh?
I don’t know if I’m supposed to like the second host segment or not. It’s another “school pageant” sketch, and it looks like Joel is reading cue cards at the beginning. But Trace and Kevin’s delivery saves it.
This was painful. There are good bad movies, and bad bad movies. This is a bad, bad movie.