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Episode guide: 301- Cave Dwellers

Movie: (1984) An evil overlord imprisons a wise man in order to learn the whereabouts of a powerful weapon. Ator the barbarian and his pals are determined to rescue him.

First shown: 6/1/91
Opening: J&tB consider new names
Invention exchange: The renaming thing gets out of hand, while in Deep 13, Dr. F loses patience with Frank’s “Mike Douglas Show” recreation; Joel’s invention is a smoking jacket, while the Mads demonstrate robotic arm wrestling
Host segment 1: J&tB reenact the half-screen slo-mo credit sequence
Host segment 2: Joel explains how giving extraordinary names to ordinary things can dress them up a bit
Host segment 3: Joel gives a foley demonstration
End: J&tB rail against the movie, which pleases the Mads
Stinger: “Thong! The fish is ready!”
1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (205 votes, average: 4.68 out of 5)

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• This one takes a little while to get going (it doesn’t help that a big chunk of the first part of the movie is flashbacks to the movie this is a sequel of), but once it does, the riffing gets up to speed and it really is hilarious. The host segments are mostly in the more-clever-than-funny variety, but we’re so comfortable with these characters by now, clever is usually enough. The movie, as Joel and the bots note in the ending segment, is a bit of a hard ride, but it’s perfect for our experiments.
• One of the first things Joel says is: “Looks like we’re back on, everybody!” implying that there’s been some sort of break in communication. And, well, there had been, but not that long: The stretch between the end of season 2 and the beginning of season 3 was 119 days, the ninth-longest (or second-shortest, depending on how you look at it) amount of time MSTies had to wait between episodes.
• This episode was included in Rhino’s “Mystery Science Theater 3000 Collection, Vol. 2.”
References.
• It was with this episode that the real heyday of the series began. In the ACEG, Kevin notes it was the first of SEVENTY-TWO contracted episodes (in fact, they’d do at total of 96 episodes from this point before Comedy Central grew weary of them). It was an almost unheard-of situation in the TV business, and you can almost feel them settle in for the long haul.
• That massive contract is perhaps the best evidence of how much CC officials considered this the network’s “signature series.” More evidence: June 1 was the day CC officially went on the air (after two months as “CTV” ): this episode was one of the shows that ran that day.
• Many of the catchphrases that we’d hear again and again are heard for the first time in this episode, including “…later…later…,” “bite me, it’s fun!” “It’s not a comic book, it’s a graphic novel!” “they’re kinda dumb and easy to kill” and “Go to bed, old man!”
• Dr. F. gives the whole “stranded in space” premise a boost by asking Joel, “How did you fare going through the asteroid belt?” (Apparently not well. Jeepers, ow.)
• Tom is wearing a fez.
• The whole “Mike Douglas Show” bit (a decade before “Seinfeld” would explore similar terrain) establishes the “Man in My Little Girl’s Life” as a piece of mental furniture for this show.
• In the invention exchange, Dr. F. is wearing his baseball cap backwards in a homage to the movie “Over the Top.”
• Before, FVI got hold of it, this movie was called “Ator The Invincible.” On video it was titled “The Blade Master.” It was a sequel to “Ator the Fighting Eagle” (1983) and the prequel to “the Iron Warrior” (1986).
• One of the commenters identified the movie that the clips used during the opening credits came from. It’s a sword-and-sandal flick called “Taur: the Mighty.”
• Oddest non sequitur: Joel says, “and…bring me the head of Gallagher!” apropos of nothing on the screen.
• Segment one just kind of establishes the premise then kills time. The credits are moderately amusing, though.
• Segment two feels very season two-ish: very wordy but funny.
• Segment three also feels like something out of early season two, akin to Joel’s zero-gravity or gobos lectures.
• At the end of segment three, Trace does the voice of TV’s Madam, but gets mixed up and makes Crow’s mouth move for a moment. Oops! They keep going.
• Callbacks: “The driver is either missing or he’s dead!” (Phantom Creeps); “Pyuma?!” (Ring of Terror) “I say it’s foggy!” (The Crawling Eye) “It’s the Aztec mummy!” “What’s Your Dream?” (Rocketship X-M)
• Obscure riff: As the cave man eats human heart: “I wanna Barney Clark bar!” In 1983, Clark was the first person to receive a permanent, implanted artificial heart; he lived 112 days.
• Vaguely dirty riff: “It’s the speedy delivery guy and has he got a package!”
• Great wordplay: “I think it’s the Kurds.” “And whey?” “Yes, way!”
• Tom’s little “Ator’s kite” song is great, and Joel’s little harmony at the end really makes it charming.
• I just love that face Joel pulls at the beginning of that final host segment.
• How much Keeffe does this movie have? Miles O’Keeffe, perhaps best known for 1981’s “Tarzan the Ape Man” with Bo Derek, apparently doesn’t take his acting ability too seriously. He reportedly contacted BBI after seeing this episode and told them he loved it.
• Cast and Crew roundup: Art director Massimo Lentini also served that role on the “Escape 2000” and Casiomeister Karl Michael Demer is back doing the credits music as mentioned previously.
• CreditsWatch: Several changes have taken place in the credits. For one, former production assistant Jann Johnson is now production coordinator (while Alex Carr remained production manager–wonder how that worked). That’s intern Christopher Wurst as the moleman Gerry, refereeing the robot arm wrestling. Wurst must have put his foot down during the making of this episode about how hot it was inside the mask: Gerry and Sylvia would never be seen again. Trace and Frank are no longer “Special Guest ‘Villians’ (misspelled)” as they were throughout season two. The lines “Special Effects and Other Fancy Stuff: Trace Beaulieu” have been removed, as has “Additional Visual Effects: Industrial Plumbing and Heating,” which I suspect was just a joke anyway. The “Hexfield Viewscreen Designed and Constructed by: Mark Gilbertson” credit, which began with episode 205, is gone. New to the credits are technical supervisor Timothy Scott and manager of business affairs Heide LeClerc. And in the thank yous: Randy Herget has been removed and Bill W. has been added (probably at the urging of Frank Conniff). The interns were Thomas Alphonso, Cyn Eells, Tom Henderson and Christopher Wurst. Wurst also got a “Contributing writers” credit, along with Briget. Also, the music during segment 1, which he titled “Jupiter,” were written and arranged by Mike. I tweeted him about what “Jupiter” means and he replied, “that may have simply been the name of the tone on the keyboard.”
• Fave riff: “Gomez! I’ve invented the wheel!!” Honorable mention: “I say: You could drive a Mack truck through your cues! Tempo! Tempo!”

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  1. Zee says:

    While a big fan of season three the first two episode of it, CAVE DWELLERS and GAMERA, kind of leave me cold. I always had trouble following this movie and the internal host segments are kind of forgettable. I like the intro and outro host segments, though. Oh, and the scene where Ator build a hang-glider is classic.

    Anyone know why Dr. F wears different glasses in this and only this episode?

    Sampo, in your episode count (96) are you not counting the six season seven episodes because they were after the point comedy central got tired of MST3K?

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  2. Wilford B. Wolf says:

    What I want to know is what is with the disjointed bit with Joel’s invention exchange. Joel starts, and then suddenly cuts back to Deep 13 for a short gag, and then Joel resumes. Was that intentional? Did they have a goof, and used the cut to hide the gaff? A little of both?

    Also, what is whole thing when Joel says “Do what I do” deeply into a microphone laying on the table?

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  3. swh1939 says:

    I was gonna ask about Dr. F’s glasses, but Zee beat me to it.

    For me this episode is firmly middle-of-the-road.

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  4. Dan in WI says:

    For my money this experiment was below average all around. The movie is horrible; the host segments range from blah to okay but out of character and the riffing just don’t help much. But you know what, this genre in general does nothing for me and that is probably coloring my opinion of the episode as a whole. I’m a life long “Weird Al” fan and there to I’ve always found if I don’t care for the music of a song’s parody source the best Al lyrics in the world will not save the parody as a whole.

    So do we know what movie the scenes in the FVI credits are from?

    I enjoyed the slow motion credit host segment the first time I saw it. But I found it doesn’t hold up all that well under repeated viewings.

    I do still enjoy the foley sketch. But I’ve always wondered what inspired this. Yes there is a bit of humor when the Bots request specific sounds. But all in and all it just educational and that is not something MST was known for.

    I do enjoy Frank’s non-sequitors after the Mads declare how evil they are.

    I love the “Over the Top” backwards cap. Despite it being Mike solo that remains one of my favorite Rifftraxs to date.

    Sampo says we’ll never see Jerry & Silvia again. I think he’s forgetting the wraps for the first Turkey Day marathon where they appear as guests at Frank’s feast.

    Oh well, bring on Gamera.

    Favorite Riffs:
    Crow “This is CNN…Luke.”

    Guy is tossed in snake pit. Joel: “Ouch, I landed on my eight sided dice.”

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  5. pondoscp says:

    Somebody’s been four-wheelin’

    Five stars all the way, even though I always get lost during the movie, and the next thing I know Ator is on the hang glider.

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  6. Smoothie of Great Power says:

    I had an “Hey, it’s that voice!” experience when watching Yor, Hunter from the Future (starring Reb Brown of Space Mutiny!) and noticed that his dub voice sounded familiar. After stewing on it for a while, I realized that his voice was the same as Ator’s. Said voice in the English dub of both movies was provided by Greg Snegoff, son of Marc Snegoff who was in agent for HARM and a makeup artist for Catalina Caper.

    This is by far my favorite episode in Season 3 as both the movie and host segments make me laugh every time. So I have plenty of memorable lines.

    Favorite riffs:
    Joel: “Made this in shop class. It’s a letter opener!”
    “I don’t believe it, they were too cheap to hire villains for this movie!”
    “You see, I use two blades. The first lifts the guy’s head off and the second…” <– I always wonder if Joel just flubbed the rest of that line.

    Crow: "Music by the Super Mario Brothers."
    "Look out, it's Koko the Terrible!"
    "No, no, no! You've got your mohawk on sideways. You look like a turkey!"

    Servo: "It's the man who invented the wedgie."
    "Wait a minute… this is the Magna Carta!"
    "Mankind, you make me want to vomit. Go away. Just, go away!"

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  7. Stephen says:

    I love this episode and really love the slo-mo host segment. Then again, I love almost every host segment where they re-create scenes from the movie (esp. “I Accuse My Parents”). Always hated that they got so far away from the movies in subsequent host segments (most notably in the Sci Fi years).

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  8. epileprosy says:

    I have a vague memory of tooling around on a music teacher’s Casio and laughing pretty hard when the “Jupiter” setting sounded exactly like that song in the credits sketch. Of course, my brain could just as easily be making all of this up subconsciously to make myself feel/look cool on a MST3K fansite…

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  9. Rob(ot roll call) says:

    For me this is one is pretty much unwatchable, too many long pauses between riffs where you’re forced to deal with movie dialog.

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  10. epileprosy says:

    No, wait. My grandma used to own one of those keyboards. So that story might actually be true. Still, though…

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  11. I remember this as being one of the first episodes Rhino released as well. When I worked at Suncoast, I snatched up this, Mitchell and the Amazing Colossal Man. Until then, I had only seen bits of episodes from dubbed tapes my friend from Arizona had shared with me. So, I love this episode, but I’m a little biased. I love the exaggerated double takes during the new names segment: “Well, I could see tha- HUUUH?!?” which are dropped almost immediately. And the Valley Girl voice they give the girl in the movie always cracks me up. “Stop shakin’ me, Dad!”

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  12. ck says:

    Come on. This is a brilliant episode. Just seeing Ator’s ability to
    go through hundreds of years of invention evolution and technological
    improvisation in minutes with his hang glider (not to mention time and
    space warping through Bavaria- and exactly where/when did he make the
    bombs dropped on the befuddled guards)?

    Come to think of it, this movie would have made a great comic book (I mean
    a graphic novel). :sidefrown:

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  13. Sitting Duck says:

    The Invention Exchange had a T-shirtworthy line which AFAIK has not been used as such:

    “Everyone knows that smoking kills, but it’s cool! Whacha gonna do?”

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  14. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    “As far as I know, nobody has identified the movie that the clips used during the opening credits came from.”

    I’ve long suspected it’s this film: http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Thor_and_the_Amazon_Women_1963.aspx

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  15. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Because this is one of the first episodes I acquired and thus one I’ve re-watched most frequently, I’ve had more time to contemplate the riffs. Here are two from the end, where Ator’s riding a horse:

    Crow: “Raised [the horse] from a pup.” In the Honeymooners episode “Two Men on a Horse,” Norton impersonated a racehorse owner and claimed he’d “raised that horse since he was a pup!”

    Crow: “Wherever there’s kids laughin’ ’cause they’re hungry and they know supper’s ready…wherever there’s a cop beatin’ up on a guy.” This is a paraphrase of Tom Joad’s speech in “The Grapes of Wrath” (1940), where he declares himself the personification of the common man OSLT.

    “I’ll be all around in the dark. I’ll be everywhere. Wherever you can look. Wherever there’s a fight, so hungry people can eat, I’ll be there. Wherever there’s a cop beatin’ up a guy, I’ll be there. I’ll be in the way guys yell when they’re mad. I’ll be in the way kids laugh when they’re hungry and they know supper’s ready. And when the people are eatin’ the stuff they raise and livin’ in the houses they build, I’ll be there, too.”

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  16. Revlillo says:

    Dan in Wisconsin,
    I really liked Frank’s non-sequiters too and I really kind of wished that they would have continued into the credits like the list of performers you can hear on “Frank” radio.

    Possible weekend discussion: What other final bits do you wish they would have continued doing during the final credits. I would have loved to hear M&TB continue their discussion of “femmy” movies, for example (not a final bit, but they could have gone back to it.

    What do you think, sirs? :-D

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  17. Revlillo says:

    Someone at the IMDB message board on this movie claims that the footage in the opening seqence comes from a movie called Taur: The Mighty (Taur, il re Della Forza Bruta — 1963). Anyone familiar with this movie?

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  18. Fart Bargo says:

    Very goofy movie with the most Non menacing villian I have ever seen. Zor had the build of a five year old and his Swan helmet in no way makes him any more intimidating. Yes I know that swans can be fierce but more associated with beauty and grace. Love to see arm wrestling between him and Prince Senja (Viking Babes…).

    Speaking of arm wrestling, Dr F’s reaction to winning puts me in stitches every time, “…in your FACE!”. The riffs were very good throughout the movie. If I could, I’d rate this 4.5.

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  19. Revlillo says:

    Here’s a link with pictures from Taur: the Mighty. http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/joerobinson.html

    I think we have our winner. 8-)

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  20. Johnny Ryde says:

    The slo-mo host segment is the answer I would give if I was ever asked for the Joel-era host segment I could least imagine happening with Mike as the host.

    I almost never watch this one, but when I do I’m usually pleasantly surprised. It’s not fantastic, but it’s definitely watchable. As has been mentioned, I crack up at the Valley Girl voice they give the female lead. (Speaking of which, is it just me, or is this one of the best looking casts in an MST3k movie?)

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  21. Creeping Terror says:

    @11 and @16: Something that I’ve never said on the discussion boards before: The “exaggerated double takes” are one of my LEAST favorite running gags of the series. I don’t find them funny at all and I find it to be lazy joke writing. (Any non sequitur can turn into this joke.) What makes it particularly infuriating here is that it’s the first joke of the episode and is done AGAIN before we go to commercial for the first time. Less than 5 minutes later (in the opening credits), they do it again and then the Brains use the SAME joke a fourth time about 20 minutes later. That’s 4 times in the first twenty-five minutes. IT’S ANNOYING. (Although not as annoying as “Jim Henson’s _____ babies,” which takes the cake for the “Riff Most Likely to Make Me Pull and Elvis and Shoot My TV” award.)

    That said, there is a special affection in my family for this episode. It was the first one we saw all the way through when the series was airing in syndication as the “Mystery Science Theater Hour” in my market. We had seen the last half of “Pod People” the week before and made a special effort to learn more about this HILARIOUS show. It doesn’t hold up as well on repeated viewings, but it’s creative gold and very much sets the tone for the next two or three seasons.

    And I always get a chuckle out of “How much Keefe is there in this movie? Miles O’Keefe!” HA!

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  22. Johnny Ryde says:

    Oh, and I have to mention that the flashback at the beginning of the movie is incredibly painful.

    Seriously, can anyone figure out what the producers thought would be conveyed in a five minute long flashback? For all the impact it actually has on the plot, they would have imparted the same amount of information by having the old guy state, “Thor is a great warrior who lives at the ends of the Earth…”

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  23. Sampo says:

    #14 & #19–So it’s definitely a Joe Robinson movie. Somebody needs to get hold of these and compare them to the footage here.

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  24. trickymutha says:

    Hey hey chickenhead…

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  25. lpydmblb says:

    One thing that should be mentioned: this was the first episode that many people ever got a chance to see, including me. Since Comedy Central was by no means a basic cable staple in 1991, those of us who had heard of the show but did not have access to the circulating tapes were out of luck.

    But I guess the folks at Viacom figured a way around this; in the run up to the Cable Ace Awards, they would broadcast nominateds shows on other, more universally broadcast networks. So MTV (I think) showed Cave Dwellers, although I’m not sure of the date. They later did the same with Alien From L.A..

    From my perspective, however, this stunk, because both shows IMHO are terrible introductions to the concept.

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  26. snowdog says:

    Ah, my first exposure to MST3K… just happened across it while flipping channels back in the early 90’s. Love at first riff!

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  27. Jedzz says:

    I do believe this was the episode that was running when I stumbled upon this show for the very first time. I remember being mystified at the very beginning trying to figure out why the guy and the talking monkey were cracking wise at some weird movie.

    I’m surprised that you didn’t bring up the final host segment, in which Joel & the Bots point out a number of anachronisms in the final scenes. I remember being absolutely confused at most of them, as they had never been pointed out during the movie proper. It wasn’t until I rented and watched the original movie that I confirmed what I had suspected: most of the moments they were discussing had been cut from the episode, and only the “tire tracks” shot is seen in the episode proper. There’s a similar thing with the stinger clip; the episode cuts to commercial just before the payoff moment. Why were these moments cut? Didn’t the editors know that they would be called back to later on?

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  28. Tork_110 says:

    Hands down the best Joel-era episode.

    “No! NO! Noo! No!”

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  29. Revlillo says:

    Sampo @ 23 —

    O.K. I double checked the footage in the opening credits and Joe Robinson is definitely wearing a white loincloth with a leather belt thing at the top. That’s the “costume” he’s wearing in Thor and the Amazon Women. :shock:

    Now we truly have a winner!

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  30. Son of Bobo says:

    Good, but not great. The Valley girl stuff is hilarious.
    I recently saw an unrecognizable O’Keefe in a bigfoot movie with Dylan Purcell. Evidently, he hasn’t done much since.
    “I’d shoot Donald Reagan for Lisa Foster.”

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  31. dsman71 says:

    This was another great episode….
    Ator was such an awful film and I love the look on Joel’s face at the end sums it up..I dont think it’s an all time classic but it was the beginning of the show reaching new heights…
    My HAIR observation tells me that this episode was shot after Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster as Joel’s hair is still growing out – about as full as we’ll ever see it
    And Dr. F’s hair which was cut in Season 2 is still growing in this episode..
    This could have easily been Episode 214 if CC asked them to do one more…for some reason I feel like even though Season 2 ended with the Sea Monster, I think the guys kept making episodes without a break or a vacation until Gamera vs. Zigra – because when we get to Viking Women and the Sea Serpent they made a few changes – the Godzilla Sliding on his tail during the intro replaced The Crawling Eye + Joel ,Frank & Trace had some cosmetic changes..
    I feel like once they had that contract for 96 episodes, they needed to get started right away to make sure they were able to meet their end of the contract.
    Joel’ hair
    Joel’s knees
    Godzilla sliding on his arse…
    Time for my weekly Therapy :D

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  32. neesygib says:

    This was also my first episode, found while flipping channels about 20 minutes into the show…nostalgia may account for some of my fondness for it, but I was pretty much hooked right off the bat. (“Why is she limping?” “Because she has an arrow in her chest.” “Oh, I can see how…HUHHH???”) By the time they sang the ‘Love, American Style’ theme for the exploding cell door, I knew this was the show for me. Another fave riff: “Geez, Tolkien couldn’t follow this plot.”

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  33. monoceros4 says:

    This isn’t my first ever MST3K episode–that distinction belongs to Warrior of the Lost World–but it was my first re-introduction to the show several years ago. I’d watched MST3K a few times in the ’90s thanks to a college chum who had cable access in his apartment and, while I liked what I saw, it wasn’t anything I could watch for myself at home. Then other things happened and I more or less forgot about the show for a good while until a few years ago, when I noticed that a Seattle friend of mine had several MST3K tapes on her shelf. She cued up Cave Dwellers and that was it; I realized I’d missed out on a whole lot and since then I’ve been working my way through the entire catalogue. I’m still a few episodes short of having seen them all.

    The thing that strikes me most about Cave Dwellers is all the gay jokes. There are at least thirty of them in the episode and, yeah, I kept count on one viewing. I happen to think it’s hilarious whenever Joel or the ‘bots refer to the movie’s gay subtext–and I do think there is a gay subtext, even if it’s completely and inexplicably accidental. I think of all those low-angle shots of Miles O’Keeffe’s chest, and how the John Saxon-y villain takes time out to poke one of Miles’s pecs, and all I can conclude is that MST3K got this one right: this movie is gayer than a Castro Street parade. “It’s Speedy Delivery Guy and has he got a package!

    And remember, it’s not a comic book, it’s a graphic novel! (To think there were people who actually made that careful distinction in real life.)

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  34. Cabbage Patch Elvis says:

    I’m the best lookin’ man in the middle ages, my my!

    What a great episode. One of the first that I watched, and that helped get me hooked. Prior to this, I thought they only did 50s scifi, so it was nice to see the variety.

    I remember seeing Miles O’Keefe in Sword of the Valliant with Sean Connery from around the same time as this film, I think. It was a lot better than this movie, but still not great.

    How much O’Keefe is in this movie anyhow?
    Oh, MILES O’Keefe! I love that one!

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  35. touches no one's life, then leaves says:

    Graphic novels actually ARE distinct from comic books. They’re customarily one-shots, larger (often about the size of a “regular” magazine) and made out of sturdier paper.

    With the riffs, the film IMHO actually turns out to be MILDLY interesting. It’s just that without the riffing, the average viewer might lose interest very early and change channels. MST3K salvages many films in this way.

    >>>Miles O’Keeffe, perhaps best known for 1981?s “Tarzan the Ape Man” with Bo Derek

    Back then, perhaps. Now I think it’s safe to say he’s best known for THIS movie, which made him (like Joe Don Baker, Coleman Francis, and others) sort of a second-hand MST3K icon. Whether that’s a step up or down, well, “What do you, the viewers at home, think?” ;-)

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  36. Zeroninety says:

    One other major change in the credits–Bridget Jones is credited as a writer for the first time. In a few episodes, we’ll meet Paul Chaplin and long-time home writer Colleen Henjum (later Williams). Also in a few episodes, Jim Mallon will drop to “contributing writer”: presumably, he stopped attending the movie-watching sessions?

    31: I suspect that may have been true. Of course, considering the amount of time needed to make an episode, I assume that, from the beginning of season two until shooting wrapped on The Movie, MST3k was essentially in continuous production, with only occasional breaks of a few weeks at a time. Nothing like the long “between seasons” summer breaks most tv series had, and still have.

    “God, I love Seinfeld!”

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  37. monoceros4 says:

    “Graphic novels actually ARE distinct from comic books.”

    I knew it! :D Being published in trade paperback format is very important to the comic book fan, I’ve noticed.

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  38. Mr. B(ob) says:

    This is one of those episodes I regularly use to get potential new fans hooked on the show and I’ve yet to see it fail. The movie if fun, goofy, lively fantasy fun and the jokes are all pretty terrific from beginning to end.

    I remember waiting anxiously after season 2 when Ha! and Comedy Channel announced their merger, hoping that MST3K and a few select other shows I loved would survive it. When Comedy Central started advertising that MST3K would return I was elated. I can still remember sitting down with my wife to watch this episode on the premiere night after months of no new shows. We were not disappointed, it’s fantastic. One of the best episodes ever. I still have fond memories when I put this one on and Joel says “looks like we’re back everybody, check it out” right near the start.

    I can’t say enough good things about the host segments. The one where they recreate the credits is great and the ones about giving ordinary objects special sounding names and how to do foley are even funnier.

    A few favorite riffs and jokes:
    “Why is she limping?” “Because she has an arrow in her chest.” “Huh!?”
    “This is the part of the film you call, ‘she had to ask’.”
    “Oh, man, they were too cheap to hire villains.” during the invisible villain fight scene. Which leads to one of my all-time favorite riffs ever. It’s about why Ator and Thong leave their cloaks after the fight, “because they must have invisible blood on them.”
    “It’s the speedy delivery guy and has he got a package!”
    “He’d never killed that big a puppet before.”
    “Everybody loves tar, sure who doesn’t?”
    “It’s kind of a buddy picture.”
    “Hey now look here you can actually see the driver turn and shoot Kennedy.”
    “I’d shoot Donal Regan to prove my love for Lisa Foster.”
    “Everybody’s evolving and stuff and it’s really neat!”
    “Wow everybody did drugs then I guess.”
    “Sheesh, Tolkien couldn’t follow this plot.”
    “And the secret decoder ring.”

    This one is just too good, so I’ll stop here before I transcribe every line in the show. 5 stars!

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  39. Ator In Flight says:

    One of my favorite episodes mainly because it was one of my first episodes and I actually used to watch this movie when I was a young lad. I loved the cover art for the Blademaster VHS box and I still have it sitting in my closet somewhere.

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  40. Dark Grandma of Death says:

    This was also one of the first eps I ever saw, thanks to the MST3k Hour. I love this one, thanks in large part to Miles O’Keeffe and his magnificent pecs. Sure, the riffing & host segments were all very strong, the movie itself was pleasantly goofy & watchable, but, really, Miles O’Keeffe without a shirt is quite the piece of eye candy.

    I liked Thong, too.

    “Hey, did you just turn into an owl and back again?”

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  41. Stefanie says:

    This was the very first Joel episode I Watched WAAAY back in ,I think, 1997. It was a video tape I got from the library.

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  42. Cheapskate Crow says:

    I couldn’t finish this episode, the movie is just so slow (and this is from someone who loves Manos). While seasons 3 and 4 are my favorite, this episode just doesn’t work for me. Host segment 1 goes on at least a minute too long and the episode just seems to have a labored pace, which I blame on the movie. 2 stars for me although things get a lot better next week.

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  43. EricJ says:

    “How much Keefe is in this movie? MILES O’Keefe!”

    “It’s a caveman version of West Side Story: ‘Unh…I just met girl named Unh.'”

    “Hey, look, anal-retentive snakes, they lined up the skulls.”

    (Fred Sanford) “I’m the best lookin’ man in the middle ages, my my my.”

    And of course:
    “Vaguely dirty riff: ‘It’s the speedy delivery guy and has he got a package!’”

    @21 – (Although not as annoying as “Jim Henson’s _____ babies,” which takes the cake for the “Riff Most Likely to Make Me Pull and Elvis and Shoot My TV” award.)

    MSTies Know Everything Alert: Accdg. to accounts, and contrary to the pop-cliche’, Elvis didn’t shoot his TV out of annoyance–Robert Goulet was missing a backup singer while they were both in Las Vegas appearances, and had borrowed one of Elvis’s backups to fill in for a couple nights…Later, when Goulet reportedly called to say “Thanks for the girl!”, there was some unfortunate mixup in communication, and Elvis was a bit, er, resentful.

    And the More You Know. :) The riff’s still overdone, though.

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  44. Johnny Ryde says:

    I’ve seen Miles O’Keeffe in a few B-movies over the years (the line “How much Keeffe…?” always runs through my head).

    Lisa Foster has had an interesting post Cave Dwellers career… She does CG work on animation and video games… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Foster http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0287939/ https://twitter.com/LisaRFoster

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  45. Shark says:

    I always wanted them to go back and riff the first and third movies of this trilogy. I wonder why they didn’t (or were unable to). Did they get a chance to screen them? This would be a good question to ask BBI!

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  46. MPSh says:

    Weren’t the scenes form the opening ang closing credits from Thor and the Amazon Women?

    Anyhoo, great ep. One of my all-time favorites.

    Favorite riffs:

    “How much Keefe is in this movie?” “Miles O’Keefe!”

    “What do you, the viewers at home, think?”

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  47. Mr. B(ob) says:

    And some favorite references:

    “This is CNN…Luke” (done in an imitation James Earl Jones voice)
    “Before the dawn of time there was a race of Druids. No one knew why they were there or where they came from.” Done in a cheesy British accent, it’s a reference to a really funny sequence in This Is Spinal Tap
    “They’ve jumped into a Kurosawa film.” At the sight of a mounted armored warrior with a back-banner.
    “It’s the Pillage People.” Obviously, the Village People.

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  48. John Paradox says:

    touches no one’s life, then leaves says:

    “As far as I know, nobody has identified the movie that the clips used during the opening credits came from.”

    I’ve long suspected it’s this film: http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Thor_and_the_Amazon_Women_1963.aspx

    I have that movie… downloaded it from the Internet Archive along with a lot of other ‘Hercules rip-off’ films (Sons of Hercules, etc.)

    J/P=?

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  49. Sitting Duck says:

    monoceros4 #33: And remember, it’s not a comic book, it’s a graphic novel! (To think there were people who actually made that careful distinction in real life.)

    It’s worse than that. There are some who insist on calling them sequential art (I wish I was making that up).

    While Andrew Borntreger of BadMovies.Org hasn’t reviewed this film, he did do the first Ator movie, which apparently was responsible for the conception of his third kid.

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  50. aprilmay says:

    Add me to the list of people who have seen it over and over. Also one of the first I ever saw. Its one of my favorites. Love the slo-mo fight scene and the foley sketch.

    And Trace is adorable with his cap on backward *swoon*

    Some fave riffs, excuse me if I don’t get all the wording right. Its been a while since I’ve seen it. Maybe I’ll watch it tonight!

    “And then he broke for a light lunch…”
    “Geez, Tolkien couldn’t even follow this plot”
    “Tuesday’s are human sacrifice night at the Sizzler”
    “What’s Ator sitting on?”
    “Music by the Super Mario Brothers”
    “I think your cape is FABULOUS”
    “I just invented air sickness”

    Oh and the entire flying scene. And the whole walk softly and carry a big stick thing. This episode is just gold. Just too many fave quotes to list.

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