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Next from Cinematic Titanic…“The Alien Factor” live. Coming Feb. 23. Here’s a sneak peak:
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this looks really funny. I am glad they doing live dvd versions. the movie has a giant spider invasion look to it.
Never fails to make me burst into laughter.
Excellent. More late ’70s sci-fi cheese! :grin: :grin:
This one looks like another winner. The way they do the live versions works really well. I’m still waiting for “Danger On Tiki Island”, since that was the movie I saw when they were in Portland (and I bought the T-shirt, too!). Maybe they are waiting to film it for the New York show…?
By the way, the CT mailer noted that they added another show, with a 4/15 show in Northampton, MA. So, get ready Boston.
So does this mean only live releases from now on? I don’t mind, believe me, but I’m curious.
I don’t know- and I’m sure I’m in a minority- but I’m very disappointed in these live releases. I’d much prefer it if they went back to the studio…
They’ve lost any future revenue from me if this format continues. I didn’t buy the last one, and I won’t buy this one. I agree with 6. I may be in the minority, but I’m very dissapointed with the new format. It feels cheap. Yeah, the riffing has improved over the studio DVD’s from last year, but the live presentation leaves me feeling unsatisfied. Don’t care for the audience either. :sad:
I’ll take the new movies any way I can get them. I’m just happy to get new material. Thanks much, CT!
I love the live ones. They make me laugh way more and there is actually interaction and chemistry between the riffers.
Having gone to a live show (2, actually), I can definitively state that the worst part of both evenings was the audience. It was a bizarre mix of REALLY hardcore MST3K fans and utterly casual fans who didn’t get a lot of the call backs or things that weren’t overtly funny. It’s a real shame, as Dynamite Brothers/East Meet Watts is by far the best thing the CT crew has done thus far… but I refuse to buy the live version of this or any other release.
I know it’s totally apples and oranges- but if I want the live version of the “competition’s” theatrical release, I can buy it… or I can buy the other version. Just saying.
Maybe I was too hasty in buying that ticket for the CT Live show in NYC. But I am still hopeful that the actual experience of being in the theater will make it seem funnier.
Alright!! Saw this in Dallas last June,which was the debut of it and it was excellent!! If it’s a live version or studio version,it doesn’t matter to me.Just as long as they keep making em!!
I LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
Am I the only one who thinks that them facing the camera seems wrong somehow? I don’t know, it’s not a deal breaker or anything.
I’m one of those people who thinks host segments are an essential part of MST3K. I also thought the studio CT DVDs were kind of dull. These CT Live DVDs satisfy what I want from Cinematic Titanic. I like being able to see the crew perform their riffing.
I’d prefer no audience. Seems a rather forced format.
Yesssss! I was hoping they’d do this one for the next DVD, perfect! Cheesy 70s sci fi is one of my top 2 fave genres for riffing. Instant purchase. :cool:
I agree with WeatherServo9 and ck. I mean, isn’t it part of the original premise–going back all those many years ago with the very first KTMA episode–that the riffer(s) IS(ARE) the audience? Part of the enjoyment is watching THEM WATCHING the movie. I dunno, JMHO. Then again, I guess after all these years they were ready to try something different.
I’m glad it appears they’re finally making their discs in widescreen, I think the way they are doing it looks good but youtube is one thing, my TV is another. I attended a CT live show last year in Seattle (East Meets Watts although it was called Dynamite Brothers at the time) and think live shows are a great idea. As a previous commenter said, they really need some good host segments though. I will definitely give Alien Factor a chance though.
I saw them do this in Chicago. Trust me, people. You’re going to fall in love with this movie. It’s just hysterical.
I don’t know. Quality does decrease for live releases but it’s a decent simulation for anybody who hasn’t been to a live show. I’m probably going to get it but I’d definitely lobby for studio DVDs to return, at least partially.
I already have this disc. I know someone. It’s really really funny. Alien Factor is quite atrocious!
I prefer the studio releases, but it’s not a deal-breaker for me, so I’ll be getting this one. (Although I will say that I prefer an actual trailer to just “the first five minutes”–the best riffs are rarely in the credits, so they’re not exactly putting their best foot forward.)
That said, the “Special Guest Star: Johnny Walker” bit is priceless. :)
Being at a live show was a lot of fun. A video of a live show…I don’t know, it just doesn’t feel right. I don’t like the ‘laugh-track’ quality that the audience provides.
Well, it looks like the copy of The Alien Factor I got in a set of fifty bad movies is going to get pulled and watched real soon.
Say what you will, this is just the thing I needed to hear after a long day. I love new stuff to look forward to!! :razz:
I’m a convert. After expression hesitation at the last one, I’m loving the live DVDs. I still prefer a studio version, but I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoy the live discs. I’m sure I’ll get this one like all the others.
That said, I agree that there’s probably a better five minutes to show than what we saw. And with a live audience, it makes the not-so-great jokes feel like complete failures. Feels awkward to share my silence with a whole auditorium.
It’s me! It’s me! It’s Ernest D.! That had me in hysterics :lol: . I love the Andy Griffith Show :mrgreen: . Can’t wait to get this one.
Holy crap, this comes out the day before my birthday. Awesome.
CT Live DVDs provide the best of both worlds – you get the quality comedy writing plus the energy of the live performance. I like seeing the riffer’s faces and the clear audio beats the occasional muddiness of the live shows. You don’t miss a riff this way.
I’m shocked that some above posters don’t want to continue supporting these releases out of some misdirected nostalgia for the old show. Be thankful CT and RT exist at all.
I’m shocked that you people are so resistant to the live show releases. The studio versions are funny but lack energy. Plus, if they’re going to continue doing live performances, they might as well film and sell them. I’m just thankful there is a Cinematic Titanic and I will support them.
I didn’t buy the previous live one and I’ll not buy this one. Until they go back to studio DVDs they have lost me as a customer.
Well, more for me then. (huh?)
If you didn’t buy the last Live DVD, then how do you know you don’t like it? Weird logic there. Are the people against this new format ones who’ve never seen CT live? Next thing you know, people are going to say they miss the commercial breaks and the damn SciFi logo at the bottom of the screen.
Get over it – the sketches, characters and puppet show are gone. It’s 2010. Even Joel said he doesn’t miss the robots. Y’see, he always knew there were real people underneath those things. Now he and his friends/partners can perform using their own voices and faces in front of appreciative, enthusiastic audiences. They are living the dream, having found a second life as comedians with this new format. After all of their individual frustrated attempts to “go Hollywood” post-MST, I am happy for them and proud to support their current project. Plus, THEY ARE STILL FUNNY. (end rant)
#32 wrote, “Next thing you know, people are going to say they miss the commercial breaks”. Is that about a thread started recently on the greatest discussion board on the internet? I think the person who started that thread is a brilliant, smart and sweet guy. Okay, it was me! ;-)
Unfortunately, I have been unable to buy the last 2 releases. I’ve seen the clips on youtube and I think they’re funny. I kind of like the laughter of the crowd, since, I watch by myself. As the riffing is the most important part, I don’t see a problem as long as you can hear the riffs. So, I can’t wait to get these soon, and, to quote #32 again, “THEY ARE STILL FUNNY”.
There is a strange logic to those that think that 5 people in the “theater” is drab, boring, and lacks energy, in regards to the studio version. Most of us came to know these 5 people from a show called Mystery Science Theater 3000, and if I recall correctly, there were 3 performers during the movie segments, no audience and no “laugh track” in the theater. I find the crowds to be obnoxious with their laughter and I hate “clap-laughers”… Drives me crazy. I’ve seen them live and it was fun–though the crowd annoyed me at times then too… but just like music, I prefer the studio to the live versions.
The writing for East Meets Watts and Alien Factor have been absolutely superb… and I wish I’d gotten to enjoy that writing without the silly audience. I have the DVD of East Meets Watts, so I’m not going on just the 5 minute clips. I wish to God they would have stuck with the studio versions for DVD releases, or had done the LIVE DVD as a one or two time thing. Everyone that says “I’ll take whatever I can get” act as though CT was on the verge of going out of business and the LIVE DVDs were the only way to keep this Ma and Pa operation going, and that’s just not true. They’ve decided that they prefer to perform live and just record it because they think that’s where they “shine.” I love these guys, but the LIVE DVDs are just not doing it for me. These are just my opinions, but I’m glad to see that I’m not totally alone on this.
SIRHAMHAT, you make a good point. I didn’t think of it in terms of music and the problems inherit by live performances. I do like live recordings, so for me the audience noise and the mistakes that go with performing live, wouldn’t bother me. Recordings in a studio will always be more polished and mistake free and, admittedly, better to listen too, or, in this case, view for a lot of people. So maybe we should title these CT releases, “CT comes alive 1 & 2?” :grin:
Looks promising. LOL “That was quick even for you…”
Initially, I had some reservations about the prospect of live DVDs, but, I have to say, “East Meets Watts” is great! I can’t wait to get “The Alien Factor.” If you haven’t gotten around to watching either of these releases just yet, you shouldn’t be so judgmental. Plus, I thought it had been made pretty clear that studio versions of these movies would be released eventually. Am I crazy?
Ah, fandom, you magnificent son-of-a-bitch!
Awesome news!! I get to see CT live in Royal Oak on Friday and get to order a new DVD on Tuesday– WA-HOO!! By-the-way, thanks CT for changing your release day to Tuesday, instead of Thursday; now when I order I can hold-out hope that it arrives by Saturday!
As to the “Live” DVD issue; my opinion is “East Meets Watts” was an absolute joy, I didn’t think the audience diminished the experience at all, plus I and my wife very muched enjoyed being able to see the CT cast.
I’m not a “just happy with whatever I get”-type, I truly felt the “Live” DVD was great, but I certainly understand if others are less-than enthused. Life would be pretty boring if everyone had the same opinions.
“East Meets Watts” kind of did my wife and I in on CT. It was okay, but not really any funnier than when we just comment on a bad movie ourselves. While I’m a fan of these folks work on MST3K this (along with all the other CT stuff I’ve bought) has convinced me that Mike (as head writer) was the magic element that made MST3K work.
I don’t know what he added — maybe just midwestern sensibility — but with few exceptions (mostly caused by the movie) there have been very little laughs for our family with the CT stuff (and we’ve bought it all). Now, we’ve never attended a live show (not anywhere within 1000 miles of us or we might have gone) so perhaps there’s an energy there which helps, but I’m crossing CT off my list now.
But I’m glad they make so many others happy — this is just one (well, two counting my wife) persons opinion.
(The real sad thing is that CT does the movies I wish RT would do).
#39 I’ve always believed watching this stuff with others increases the funny. Laughter is contagious. I’ve done both RiffTrax live events and have tickets for Milwaukee’s Cinematic. But even if I have two or three friends in the room with me I find myself laughing out loud more frequently then when I watch something by myself.
As for the complaint that the studio Cinematic Titanics are missing some piece of spark I have to agree. Yes I know MST never was also a studio production. But for some reason it was much better. So I’m not saying studio Cinematic Titanics are not as sharp because they are in the studio. I just find they are missing something on their studio releases. Maybe its the fact that they five performers still haven’t done enough work together to create that “firing on all cylinders” chemistry. After all I think most would agree the first season of MST was lacking and that should really didn’t begin to peak until season three. At this point Cinematic Titanic has a while to go to get that many shows under their belt. So while that is my leading theory at the moment I still can’t quite definitively say what is missing for me.
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Thank you, thank you for having the courage to make your above statements. I thought I was the only one. I am very happy for everybody that loves CT; I realize how subjective humor is. I know just from reading MST reviews that what makes laugh often just leaves others cold. I’ve watched one and a half of the studio dvds, and they were OK, but the samples of these live dvds don’t even make me smile. I also showed them to a couple of family members to get their unbiased opinion.
I meant #39’s above statements :|
The problem I have withthis live audience format is partly
the way it reminds you of tv sitcoms canned laughter telling you
when it’s “funny” and that you should laugh. Yes, it’s live CT
reaction but still someone is subtly trying to influence you.
Also, related to an above comment about you watching Mike/Joel
and the bots in their bizarro world and Tolkien’s theory of
subcreation, seeing/hearing the Five (does that remind you of The Seven ;-) )
reading notes and the audience reacting) is a bit like Tolkien’s
comment:
“What really happens is that the story-maker [for Cinematic Titanic re
The Five] proves a successful ‘sub’creator.’ He makes a Secondary World
which your mind can enter. Inside it what he relates [makes riffs on]
is ‘true.’…..The moment disbelief arises, the spell is broken; the
magic, or rather art, has failed. You are then out in the Primary World
again, lokking at the little abortive Secondary World from outside.”
Of course, about CT productions I LIKE THEM VERY MUCH!
so don’t take the above critique
too seriously and just repeat to yourself
it’s just a show, I should really just relax.
Lurks-a-Lot, I’m with you. These are fun, but what happened to the studio releases? Joel said that there was a “backstory” building in the studio DVDs, plus they had fun with the silhouttes during the “movie stops”. These live DVDs seems like a shortcut to me. I love any new material, but they really need to get back to what made the series in the beginning.
I mean, isn’t it part of the original premise–going back all those many years ago with the very first KTMA episode–that the riffer(s) IS(ARE) the audience?
No, the original lesson of MST3K is that the show kind of sucked until they began writing better scripts and rehearsing them more. Not everyone can tell a good joke and even fewer people are good at telling them. I want to hear professionals at work, not a bunch of incompetent amateurs.
I was really excited about CT doing “Alien Factor”, growing up here in the Baltimore area, this flick was on the old UHF “Creature Feature” at least twice a year (no surprise since the guy playing Mayor Burt in “Alien Factor” also played the Creature Feature host Count Gore DeVol).
I LOVE this movie and couldn’t wait to see how the CT crew tackled it…..until I read it was “live” release. Because of my love of “Alien Factor” I’ll probably pick this up…but I’ll join the chorus of “bring back the studio DVD releases”. I simply don’t care for the live format. I enjoy the live shows when I’m there in person, but not for a video format.
It’s why I hate live albums too, the audience takes away from my enjoyment of the product. Unless I’m there in person, I don’t want to hear the “audience participation”, I don’t want to hear some goober yucking it up while I’m trying to watch DVD.
Well here’s a thought…
How’s about the people in places where CT DOESN’T tour getting to see what their live show is all about? I live in East Bumblewatts so the dvd’s are the ONLY shot I’m ever going to get at seing a CT live show. Really, don’t you complainers have anything better to do?
I was also skeptical about the live DVDs, but the “East Meets Watts” one was great. There are certainly pluses and minuses to each format, but I’ll take ’em however they make ’em.
I wonder why the trailer is so long this time? I’m not complaining, but usually it’s only about two minutes. Can’t wait to see Alien Factor!
I saw the performance of “Alien Factor” in Philadelphia and it was comic gold. I’m definitely looking forward to this one.
As for the “studio vs. live” debate, I realize that the studio versions seem a bit more polished and that audience laughter can de distracting. On the other hand, the live format allows for some really funny ad-libs, which can really improve the scripted jokes.
Personally, as long as it’s funny, I’ll take either format.