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Weekend Discussion Thread: Stuff You Noticed on Repeated Viewings

Alert reader Mark opines:

“Little things you’ve noticed.”
For instance, watching “Soultaker,” I LOVE the scene where both Zach and Natalie get on an elevator to get back to their bodies on an upper floor. But the elevator they get on is already occupied by a young (orderly? intern? nurse?) man in ‘scrubs’ who has a Walkman on, and because he thinks he’s alone, begins animatedly rocking out to the music on the Walkman.
It’s at this moment that the fun begins: if you watch Natalie closely as the elevator ride begins, you can see her purposely looking down and away from the actor rocking out to the music, because every time she glances back towards him, you see her unmistakably starting to break up.

Have you noticed something?

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  1. Son of Peanut says:

    It wasn’t until the second or third time through that I noticed the vanishing brunette from Village of the Giants. When the group of troublemakers first come to town, there are four guys and four gals. But from the time that they first grow big until just before they shrink again, the one brunette girl is nowhere to be found.

    Does anyone know why? Did the actress not want to wear the revealing outfits? Did her scenes just get cut?

       12 likes

  2. Sitting Duck says:

    In Devil Doll, when English is at a pub drowning his sorrows over his girlfriend dumping him in favor of Vorelli, there’s a advertisement in the background for midget wrestling.

       8 likes

  3. MONSTER A NO-NO

    “but there was no telephone ring…”

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  4. pete_plums_drivers_license says:

    Sure, I’ve noticed something, a number of somethings. Unfortunately, they’re all NSFW moments that SOMEHOW got left in, not only the original movies, but the MST’d versions.

    I’d share some of them, but I prefer to lower the tone of these weekend get-togethers with pedantry and prolixity, not moral degradation.

    heh

       6 likes

  5. jay says:

    The Final Sacrifice –

    In the scene where Rowsdower is gassing up his POS pickup and the cultists are approaching we see the Rowsdowermobile lurch into motion and tear down the road at speeds upward of thirty kph (it’s Canada, ya know). After watching the scene a time or two it becomes obvious that the cultist’s car is holding back when it could have easily overtaken Rowsdower and Troy in spite of the empty beer bottles Troy is throwing out. Maybe the guy had just made the last payment on his chase car and didn’t want to tangle with a truck that obviously had nothing to lose?

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  6. Son of Peanut says:

    A similar disappearance happens in Horrors of Spider Island. Gladys and Doreen are introduced as a duo, but after the crash, no Doreen. Did she die? If so, why is she never mentioned?

    Son of Peanut:
    It wasn’t until the second or third time through that I noticed the vanishing brunette from Village of the Giants.

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  7. Yeti of Great Danger says:

    Since alert reader Mark mentioned “Soultaker,” one of the nuns at the bus stop is actually a man (listed as Eugene Walter in the credits). So many questions — was he a friend of the director and had always wanted to play a nun? Were there no other elderly women willing to be extras? At any rate, bravo, Eugene.

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  8. RedZoneTuba says:

    How about one where repeated viewings don’t help any? I’ve watched Night of the Blood Beast multiple times and I still don’t know what a “snarf farm” really is!

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  9. pete_plums_drivers_license says:

    Son of Peanut:
    A similar disappearance happens in Horrors of Spider Island. Gladys and Doreen are introduced as a duo, but after the crash, no Doreen. Did she die? If so, why is she never mentioned?

    ,
    Only last night I ran across some mention of Horrors etc., that specifically mentioned that a LOT of it, nine or ten minutes of nudity, was cut when they decided to distribute it in the U.S. That was over and above its being a mash-up of an original movie that wasn’t going anywhere with the tacked-on spider story that was supposed to salvage the project. Be grateful for ANY coherence in that dismal thing.

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  10. DarkGrandmaofDeath says:

    It wasn’t until I watched Catalina Caper a second time that I noticed the amazing fail of Carol Connors lip-syncing the “Book of Love” number. She does try, and sort of manages, but finally loses her place entirely, and just gives up with a laugh. (Not that I really blame her – it was windy enough that she kept having to pull her hair away from her mouth, and that must have been distracting when trying to remember lame lyrics.)

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  11. Murdock Hauser says:

    At the ending host segment of “Indestructible Man.” Joel had an opportunity to possibly be rescued by Officers Nelson and Murphy.

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  12. duke of puddles says:

    RedZoneTuba:
    How about one where repeated viewings don’t help any?I’ve watched Night of the Blood Beast multiple times and I still don’t know what a “snarf farm” really is!

    i thought he said ‘sanrf bomb?’

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  13. duke of puddles says:

    after a couple of viewings of ‘Mole People’ i realized that i too was praying for the holy movie to kill John Agar.

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  14. duke of puddles says:

    on a semi serious note it wasn’t until the third viewing of ‘Lost Continent’ (no i don’t know why i watched it 3 times) but i finally noticed Hugh laughing his hinder off when Monkey Boy was getting pulled up the mountain via an atomic wedgie.

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  15. duke of puddles says:

    jay:
    The Final Sacrifice –

    In the scene where Rowsdower is gassing up his POS pickup and the cultists are approaching we see the Rowsdowermobile lurch into motion and tear down the road at speeds upward of thirty kph (it’s Canada, ya know).After watching the scene a time or two it becomes obvious that the cultist’s car is holding back when it could have easily overtaken Rowsdower and Troy in spite of the empty beer bottles Troy is throwing out.Maybe the guy had just made the last payment on his chase car and didn’t want to tangle with a truck that obviously had nothing to lose?

    maybe but it doesn’t explain why the hoser (it IS Canada after all) didn’t tap his brakes before goin’ off the cliff, eh?

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  16. Kenotic says:

    In Cry Wilderness those raccoons are clearly trying to bite the actors. At least one looks like it succeeded.

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  17. mst3kme says:

    Son of Peanut:

    From IMDb:

    “Vicki London was originally cast with a larger role, but declined to disrobe in preproduction, so her part was changed with Joy Harmon’s, and much of London’s subsequent screen time was cut. Her agent kept her in the movie at full pay, while London didn’t seem to object to what happened, since she saw the whole thing as forgettable.”

    Son of Peanut:
    It wasn’t until the second or third time through that I noticed the vanishing brunette from Village of the Giants. When the group of troublemakers first come to town, there are four guys and four gals. But from the time that they first grow big until just before they shrink again, the one brunette girl is nowhere to be found.

    Does anyone know why? Did the actress not want to wear the revealing outfits? Did her scenes just get cut?

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  18. Yeti of Great Danger:
    Since alert reader Mark mentioned “Soultaker,” one of the nuns at the bus stop is actually a man (listed as Eugene Walter in the credits).So many questions — was he a friend of the director and had always wanted to play a nun?Were there no other elderly women willing to be extras?At any rate, bravo, Eugene.

    Thought he was listed in the credits, as one of the “producers” (ie. cash sources), but IMDb had no record. Clearly someone who thought he’d get a “cameo” for his involvement, and…
    Can’t remember whether M&tB noticed enough to riff on it.

    RedZoneTuba:
    How about one where repeated viewings don’t help any?I’ve watched Night of the Blood Beast multiple times and I still don’t know what a “snarf farm” really is!

    Aren’t they usually found on Thundera?

    Son of Peanut:
    It wasn’t until the second or third time through that I noticed the vanishing brunette from Village of the Giants. When the group of troublemakers first come to town, there are four guys and four gals. But from the time that they first grow big until just before they shrink again, the one brunette girl is nowhere to be found.

    Isn’t that the brunette girl who has only one walk-off scene wandering by the camera outside the theater, as they leave just before Beau Bridges has his fight with Tommy Kirk? (And still never appears in any of the other giant scenes?)
    I didn’t remember her in any of the early scenes, and thought “Where did SHE come from? Was she a new recruit?”

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  19. Sitting Duck says:

    Kenotic:
    In Cry Wilderness those raccoons are clearly trying to bite the actors. At least one looks like it succeeded.

    And turn the character into a werecoon, possibly making the film more interesting.

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  20. Kevin Wallace says:

    Toward the end of The Blood Waters of Dr. Z. Our heroes are driving around with the Sheriff trying to track the monster using a Geiger counter. They pull up in a dead end and there is a small sign on a pole facing away from the camera.
    Both Mike and myself would like to know what it says on the other side of that sign.

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  21. Terry the Sensitive Knight says:

    In “Mitchell” there’s a very brief snipped of a news report about how Deany was killed. Since the actual scene of Deany being killed was cut, it’s very easy to miss.

    “Guys, wasn’t John Saxon in this movie?”

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  22. yelling_into_the_void says:

    Also in The Blood Waters of Dr. Z when the sheriff encounters the monster he fumbles trying to draw his gun. I can’t remember if he drops it or accidentally throws it at the monster.

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  23. The Grim Specter of Food says:

    In The Magic Sword, the hag is played by Malia Nurma, aka Vampira. It’s a different actress when she turns into a French blonde to attack the French knight, but you can see a rare glimpse of her out of makeup capturing the princess at the beginning of the movie.

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  24. bartcow says:

    Space Mutiny: when they throw Rick Springfield over the railing, he lands and his glasses fall off. They cut back to Kalgan etc., then back to the dead Rick, whose glasses are now back on. Took me a couple of viewings to notice.

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  25. mando3b says:

    Eegah gets shot and falls into the swimming pool. The camera pans over the water and we see E’s turd-shaped club (!) and his bearskin (!!) floating around. Which means that Joel and the ‘bots: somehow don’t comment on the fact that there’s a naked and bleeding Richard Kiel bobbing in the pool at a swingin’ teen party; and miss a golden opportunity for a poopie joke or two (or five).

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  26. Kenotic says:

    One that wasn’t clear when I first saw it, but after I learned about the production it’s hard not to see: In Merlin’s Shop the second half is obviously a film from a decade earlier with cheaper-looking film. When it cuts to Merlin the print looks cleaner and the audio’s better.

    It’s much more obvious at the end with the spliced together “Merlin Saves Everyone” ending as opposed to the original “Everyone dies” ending.

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  27. jjk50 says:

    Son of Peanut:
    It wasn’t until the second or third time through that I noticed the vanishing brunette from Village of the Giants. When the group of troublemakers first come to town, there are four guys and four gals. But from the time that they first grow big until just before they shrink again, the one brunette girl is nowhere to be found.

    Does anyone know why? Did the actress not want to wear the revealing outfits? Did her scenes just get cut?

    I think she was smart enough to get out of this movie.

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  28. And I admit, it’s fun watching “Hey, get a load of Mr. Stage Business, on the left:” trying to stay in the scene by improvisationally fiddling with equipment during the airplane-hangar scenes in “War of the Colossal Beast”.

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  29. goalieboy82 says:

    Torque the Dorque:
    MONSTER A NO-NO

    “but there was no telephone ring…”

    and no monster too.

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  30. pete_plums_drivers_license:
    Sure, I’ve noticed something, a number of somethings. Unfortunately, they’re all NSFW moments that SOMEHOW got left in, not only the original movies, but the MST’d versions.

    I’d share some of them, but I prefer to lower the tone of these weekend get-togethers with pedantry and prolixity, not moral degradation.

    heh

    I have no such qualms so I’ll go ahead on.

    I was quite surprised when I noticed a woman being exposed by having her top ripped off during the rando fight scene during the chaperone’s dance in the Creeping Terror. I would hope she was paid well but knowing the details of this production she probably wasn’t even reimbursed for the top.

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  31. goalieboy82 says:

    while not MST3K related, sometime ago, me and my dad were watching a short (from the late 1940’s). it was about how Congress works. my dad pointed this out to me. one of the scenes, showed the VP then (Alben W. Barkley) at his desk and in the background, there was someone smoking and pouring himself a stiff drink.
    see 3:50 or so into the film.
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?456254-2/a-day-congress-1949

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  32. Terry the Sensitive Knight says:

    The Grim Specter of Food:
    In The Magic Sword, the hag is played by Malia Nurma, aka Vampira. It’s a different actress when she turns into a French blonde to attack the French knight, but you can see a rare glimpse of her out of makeup capturing the princess at the beginning of the movie.

    I thought that was Marcia Wallace?

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  33. Terry the Sensitive Knight says:

    SmudgyTheBootblack: I was quite surprised when I noticed a woman being exposed by having her top ripped off during the rando fight scene during the chaperone’s dance in the Creeping Terror. I would hope she was paid well but knowing the details of this production she probably wasn’t even reimbursed for the top.

    That was also pretty obviously from a different movie.

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  34. There’s also a bit of boob with the babysitter in Being From Another Planet that aired. NOT the boob that stole the mummy’s jewels…

    Here’s a Vicki London where she gets a bit into the skeeviness that cut her role down. Original site seems to be down so here’s the Google Cached version:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ky7GNDR0rk0J:www.angelfire.com/weird2/villageoftheg/VickiLondon.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1-d

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  35. skrag2112 says:

    Near the end of ‘Laserblast’, the kid is standing in the middle of a city, and there is a building behind him with a storefront that says S.M.C. Cartage Co. on it. It sounded familiar and it turns out that it was the place where the St Valentines Day Massacre happened in 1929. They were probably shooting on a set where a movie about the massacre had been recently filmed.

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  36. pete_plums_drivers_license says:

    SmudgyTheBootblack: I have no such qualms so I’ll go ahead on.

    I was quite surprised when I noticed a woman being exposed by having her top ripped off during the rando fight scene during the chaperone’s dance in the Creeping Terror. I would hope she was paid well but knowing the details of this production she probably wasn’t even reimbursed for the top.

    ….ok…busted………………

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  37. goalieboy82 says:

    while watching San Francisco International during the opening, the plane keeps changing (707 or DC-8 at the opening) and when the wheels come out, its a B-52 landing gear and into a Convair 990A Coronado (when the plane is landing).

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  38. pete_plums_drivers_license says:

    In Agent from H.A.R.M., at about 46:30 in, you can see the street sign for that house on the beach, “Privateer St/ 00 E.”
    It, or its replacement, is still there on Google Street View; go to “4700 Speedway Marina del Rey CA” and spin the view around a bit.

    Final Sacrifice was shot in Water Valley and Cremona, Alberta; unfortunately, only Cremona’s on Street View, and I’m not getting a whole lot outta that. If that was Cremona in the opening scenes, they need to reproduce that sign post ASAP and offer Final Sacrifice tours, get ’em some tourists up there, maybe score a Timmy’s (although if you look at Street View, they DO already have a curling rink).

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  39. pete_plums_drivers_license says:

    goalieboy82:
    while watching San Francisco International during the opening, the plane keeps changing (707 or DC-8 at the opening) and when the wheels come out, its a B-52 landing gear and into a Convair 990A Coronado (when the plane is landing).

    Oh, don’t start…nobody so far has given a shout-out to all the police cars that switched make and model in mid-chase, the steering wheels that moved from left side to right side, and trying to sort out the stock footage of jet fighters magically transforming in mid-pass from F-86s to P-80s to F-102s….

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  40. In Human Duplicators during the telephone/pool scene right after the weird closeup of the secretary woman’s area – In the background I swear that is Bart Fargo/Gordon Scott giving a swell gal a lift. It looks just like him.

    In Final Justice the DJ voice on the radio at the beginning who says “Good luck, boys” is also the voice of the failure pilot on the plane.

    The boom mic during the pool scene of Parts the Clonus Horror. That one is a doozy.

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  41. goalieboy82 says:

    Brock Lee Rubberband:
    In Human Duplicators during the telephone/pool scene right after the weird closeup of the secretary woman’s area – In the background I swear that is Bart Fargo/Gordon Scott giving a swell gal a lift. It looks just like him.

    In Final Justice the DJ voice on the radio at the beginning who says “Good luck, boys” is also the voice of the failure pilot on the plane.

    The boom mic during the pool scene of Parts the Clonus Horror. That one is a doozy.

    just notice that about the boom mic. they just didn’t care.

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  42. eegah says:

    Within the last week, I was watching an MST3K episode for the bazillionth time and noticed something new. I even mentioned it to my wife. However, neither of us can remember what the heck it was. Just in time for this thread. Ugh.

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  43. Ray Dunakin says:

    Speaking of boom mics, until I saw the boom mic in “Mitchell”, I never realized just how powerful an illusion is created by even the cheesiest of movies. On an intellectual level, I know I’m watching a movie — I know the characters are just actors, the sets are fake, and there are stage lights, cameras, and crew all around. But it still feels like I’m watching a slob cop having dinner at the home of a mob-connected importer. Then that boom mic shows up, and suddenly I can SENSE the presence of the crew, and SEE two actors at work in front of a camera.

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  44. littleaimishboy says:

    in BLOOD WATERS OF DR Z, on the guy’s Wheel Of Stuff To Do + Miscellaneous Plans thing, if you look closely, one of the notations is “tell craft services no tuna salad.”

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  45. eegah says:

    pete_plums_drivers_license:
    In Agent from H.A.R.M., at about 46:30 in, you can see the street sign for that house on the beach, “Privateer St/ 00 E.”
    It, or its replacement, is still there on Google Street View; go to “4700 Speedway Marina del Rey CA” and spin the view around a bit.

    Final Sacrifice was shot in Water Valley and Cremona, Alberta; unfortunately, only Cremona’s on Street View, and I’m not getting a whole lot outta that. If that was Cremona in the opening scenes, they need to reproduce that sign post ASAP and offer Final Sacrifice tours, get ’em some tourists up there, maybe score a Timmy’s (although if you look at Street View, they DO already have a curling rink).

    Someone needs to put together a Google Maps “MST3K Movie Filming Locations” thingy.

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  46. pete_plums_drivers_license says:

    eegah: Someone needs to put together a Google Maps “MST3K Movie Filming Locations” thingy.

    https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/038/732/633673088039538329-nukethemfromorbit.jpg

    Oh, all right. Perhaps that’s a little harsh.

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  47. skrag2112 says:

    I just realized a great discussion thread for this weekend should have been “Which MST3K movie character would have made a great Oscar host?”
    For me, hands down, the Phantom Of Krankor!

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  48. itsspideyman says:

    After watching “The Undead” a bajillion times I couldn’t help noticing the wires holding the flying veal cutlets that Allison Hayes and Billy Barty changed into. It’s all I see now. Well, that and Allison Hayes. ????

    Having said that, Billy Barty’s scene-chewing is hard to ignore!

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  49. itsspideyman says:

    Ray Dunakin:
    Speaking of boom mics, until I saw the boom mic in “Mitchell”, I never realized just how powerful an illusion is created by even the cheesiest of movies. On an intellectual level, I know I’m watching a movie — I know the characters are just actors, the sets are fake, and there are stage lights, cameras, and crew all around. But it still feels like I’m watching a slob cop having dinner at the home of a mob-connected importer. Then that boom mic shows up, and suddenly I can SENSE the presence of the crew, and SEE two actors at work in front of a camera.

    In The Six Wives of Henry VIII, in the first episode where Catherine of Aragorn is being interrogated, there is very clearly a microphone at the bottom of the screen. Now it’s all I see!

    In Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla the costume for Mechagodzilla so obviously puts the Mechagodzilla head on top of the actors head that I can’t help but look at it no matter how hard I try!

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  50. Terry the Sensitive Knight says:

    lol yeah, even the worst movies have suspension of disbelief… but once you see a mic or a crewman in the shot that all goes right out the window

    Joel:”LOOK, A HAND!” -Giant Gila Monster

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