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I remember seeing this movie on TV decades ago. One of my brothers thought the Jack the Ripper figure looked kind of like John Cleese. And, as for John Carradine, by his own admission many, though not all, of his movies were really bad.
Oh, that IS John Carradine on the cover! Thought they’d gone back to having Kevin mug it up on the Rifftrax covers again.
(And yes, for all the story believes it’s a remake of the 3D “House of Wax”, it’s a long way from Vincent Price and Charles Bronson.)
And the guy whose sole reason to participate in Rifftrax discussions is so he can B|TCH B|TCH B|TCH about Rifftrax is the third commentator on the scene. His dedication is so bemusing.
Rifftrax also has newly available:
“Ready Player One” and the shorts “At Your Fingertips: Floats (Live Edition)” and “Ladybug, Ladybug, Winter is Coming.”
Enjoy.
Touches:
His dedication is so annoying.
The only thing that brings his idiocy out faster than a post about Rifftrax is a post about a Rifftrax from Bridget and Mary Jo. Then he gets to display his misogyny too. At this point he’s become a human drinking game — EricJ posts quickly on a Rifftrax thread to say something insulting. Ding! EricJ insults women. Ding! EricJ posts a rambling, elitist-wannabe word salad full of underlining, boldface, and italics. Ding! So pathetic.
But back to the topic at hand — this looks like a great Rifftrax for Halloween. Btw, does anyone know why Ray Milland stooped to making such crappy movies late in his career; did he need the money that badly? And my new go-to phrase is going to be “It was a cheap and stupid night.”
Edited to add: IMDb is indeed my friend. Quote from Milland: [when asked why he had appeared in so many bad films late in his career] “For the money, old chap, for the money!” Still, after seeing him in dreck like this, I want to watch “The Lost Weekend” again.
That quote’s also been attributed to Sir Laurence Olivier (except with “dear boy” instead of “old chap”), among others.
Also, an actor must act. If they weren’t driven by something deep inside them, they probably wouldn’t have become actors in the first place. No one becomes an actor just because they want a job.
I remember the last Rifftrax offering with Bridget and Mary Jo. I made the comment about how well they work together, and how they sound like they’re having fun. This led to two sets of comments, one against Bridget and Mary Jo and another general about how mean…..you know the drill. Anyway, I won’t beat a dead horse.
“Everybody needs money. That’s why they call it “money”.” — Mickey Bergman (Danny DeVito), “Heist” (2001).
(yeah, it doesn’t really make sense, but it’s memorable, anyway)
;-)
That reminds me of my favorite Michael Caine quote (re: Jaws: The Revenge): “I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific.”
I can’t remember the comedian who said this (Rich Little? Maybe.) but his breakdown of how to impersonate Michael Caine was pretty accurate:
“If you …. want to talk…. like Michael Caine… you have to … pause after.. every other… word.”
Gare
I can’t remember him either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFIQIpC5_wY
So Michael Caine patterned himself after William Shatner?
;-)
Speaking of William Shatner (heh, see what I did there?):
In 610: The Violent Years, Crow, using a Shatner-esque voice, tacks on to the judge’s speech about religion “Your Catholicism, your Polygmon of Thorton VIII.”
In 616’s “Are You Ready for Marriage,” Crow, using the same voice, mentions “Your Zephon Wars of Beta III.”
(I’ve harped on this topic before (and I am, you will note, admitting that) but the more I listen to Trace Beaulieu’s voice, the less bearable Bill Corbett’s voice becomes to me; so it goes)
What the Samuel Langhorn Heck is Crow talking about in these two instances (and before anyone says anything, I know what Catholicism is, thank you)? Beta III is a planet from Star Trek’s “The Return of the Archons” but I can’t find any related reference to the Zephon Wars (the spelling of “Zephon” is just a guess, of course). Or anything about Thorton VIII and the religion of Polygmon thereon.
From the TekWar novels, perhaps?
Anyone, anyone?
Thanks. :-)
I don’t think they’re quoting Shatner literally. I think those are all, or at least mostly, made-up words meant to sound like something that could have come from Star Trek.
Hmm, so this is the second time Carradine plays a mad wax museum artist? I guess someone saw his turn in “Alias the Scarf” on the 60s ‘Green Hornet’ show and thought, this needs the cinematic treatment!
Mentioning about Carradine being in so many bad movies; I believe Shatner said “Work is work”. Like Adam West, they were at a time when actors salaries were not so sky high and they had families to feed. Plus there was the fear they wouldn’t be able to find more work. So they did movies that were a waste of talent to keep going. Plus they had that “show must go on” attitude, even through very bad movies.
“I’ve made some of the greatest films ever made–and a lot of crap, too.”
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001017/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm#quotes
(Yes: You drifted off into encyclopedic detail onto whatever pop-culture brain-synapse a chance comment struck you to post about. I won’t say why. ;) )
Perhaps–It’s an Early Mid-90’s Thing, back when the TekWars were not only all over every airport bookstore, but also getting a first-run syndie series on the UHF channels. And to the Brains, of course, nothing was more publicly annoying than first-run 90’s syndie series.
If you joked about Shatner back then, it was USUALLY about his novels, and/or the possibility of their actually being “his” to begin with.
You mean that sort of loud, over-delivered “KnowwhatImean, nudge-nudge???…” delivery Bill puts into every line he considers as killer (and then expands on three or four more times in a row because you just can’t get enough of it) because he got to deliver it? The one that sounds like every riff should be preceded by “Hey, guys, get this:” ?
Yeah, does make you appreciate Trace’s delivery that much more.
Oh, the irony of this statement.
Cripes guys if things about the show begin to become less bearable to you, maybe it’s time to take a long break from the show?
I came here after a long day to find Eric J. going on his usual ramblings. :-(
For everyone here who doesn’t like Mr. Grumpy, try this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T3Su341zKj8
As a general rule, I momentarily despise him for his condescension and then I get over it.
Touches:
Well, I wrote I had a long day.
Isn’t a good feeling to, at the end of the day, know that at least you’re not Eric?
“When you’re feeling too grim,
Just stand next to him,
And then you won’t feel quite so bad.”
;-)
My “And the guy whose…” post (the fourth post in this thread) has received 26 likes so far. Who are all these people?
;-)
(as it happens, this is the 26th post, an exceptionally tiny coincidence)
Well, me for one. And probably a lot of people who would like to participate in these threads but don’t want to be a target of his personal attacks.
You mean like every one of your posts. Stop being such a jerk.
You’ve made this point, over and over and over.
We get it.
Move on, you sad, mothers-basement-living little bridge troll.
Delete your account.
Gare
I kind of have to wonder if even his mother is that charitable…
Hey, he’s got 2 followers on Google+; one COULD be a relative.
And…. this is how all threads and discussions here end up lately: a new WDT or an announcement of a Rifftrax offering, and it goes completely off the rails. It’s just no fun any more. For the love of Servo, Sampo, please do something. A working ignore button or ban the troll. I presume the latter option would be quicker and easier.
I LOVE RIFFTRAX. AND BRIDGET. AND MARY JO. AND MIKE. AND KEVIN. AND BILL.
Lawgiver:
That would be a shame.
There’s strength in numbers.
Yeah, but who’s sending them there? The guy who posted twice, both times on topic?
One comment expressing an agreed opinion with another poster about Bill being unbearable causes 10 posts, overnight, in its own separate thread-drift, about how much we hate one poster, dream of his comeuppance, and should shut down the board rather than put up with him, at expense of all related discussion.
We should look carefully to see who has the obsessive issues on the board.
We all recognize at this point that you’re a narcisstic windbag, but even you can’t be this delusional.
You snark about Mike and the boys regarding either Rifftrax or their time on MST3k on a daily basis. You throw word-salad posts everywhere in some attempt to sound like you actually know what you’re talking about. And in this very thread, you accused ‘touches’ of doing the very thing that you do regularly.
And finally, when someone calls you out on this stuff, you either ignore what they said and rarely respond, or you make a cutesy post with a smiley face at the end, as if to say that we’re all friends.
We’re not.
I’m sure there are some here who might agree with your take on Mike and the rest, though I suspect they might be afraid to openly agree for fear that others will get on their case and give them the EricJ treatment. And if there are any of you out there reading this – please understand, we wouldn’t. It’s not about the difference of opinions – we’ve all been through the flame-wars of the 90’s and have come out the other side realizing that everyone has their own take on the show and it’s various moving parts.
It’s *him* that we rail against, since he repeats the same nonsense at every possible turn in his usual, pandering, condescending manner.
So for those of you who have what you feel might be an unpopular opinion of the show – please feel free to speak up. Just don’t be Eric. One is enough.
As for you, Comicbook Guy of this site – at long last, just address this simple question: if we’ve all told you that yes, we get it: you don’t like Mike, or Bill, or MaryJo, or whomever else you spew your bile about.. and we’ve asked you as nauseam to knock it off already.. then tell us: why do you persist in being the one truly sore spot of this otherwise great site? At long last – why do you continue to troll??
Your path here is clear – answer this in a rational manner, since I think a lot of us would like to know… or just shut your pie hole already.
Gare
Hey, I didn’t say “unbearable.” I said “LESS bearable.” That could mean, like, 90% bearable. I choose my words very carefully, thank you. And it was just an idle comment, anyway. IMHO Trace is the perfect Crow so Bill will inevitably come up short. It’s really not a big deal.
Besides, Rifftrax isn’t supposed to be Mike, Crow, and Servo, so the fact that it doesn’t have the better Crow (Trace) isn’t a barrier to enjoyment. I’ve been watching Rifftrax: Walking Shorts today and Bill’s voice works there perfectly. I can accept Bill as Bill, he just IMHO isn’t nearly as good a Crow as Trace, that’s all. I’m Mr. Glass-Half-Full. :-)
I’d enjoy Rifftrax even more if it was Mike, Kevin, and Trace but for whatever reason they haven’t pursued that option (except when it’s EVERYBODY riffing which isn’t the same thing).
Because they’re called opinions. You can state them once, or you can state them a hundred times, but in the real grownup world, where we don’t worry about the Cool Kids, everyone gets to. We also learn to live with that.
But as for “why”, I fall back on the old saying that a missionary doesn’t run home crying just because he found out the natives all have spears.
It’s not trying to be “friends”, it’s an old trick I learned from the Prince of Space: Constantly remind your opponents that their weapons have no effect on you. :)
(For example, dumping pigs’ blood and pelting RT-haters with tampons might work in high school, but if the poster is an old CC fan, it’s logical to assume he’s probably left high-school clique-acceptance fear a good few decades behind him. As for RT and SciFi fans, I’m not qualified to comment in that area.)
But we are (supposedly) listening to the comics as themselves. Which shifts a bit of the blame.
So, if it’s written into the SciFi-era canon that Bill-Crow’s jokes are a bit desperate, that he comes off as a hyperactive tagalong, and he runs every joke into the ground to the annoyance of Mike and Servo, that’s fictional license. When standup comic Bill Corbett does the same thing in RT concert, how much of that is “wacky persona”, and how much of that is his own danged unprofessional fault?
Or do they just not care about the difference anymore?
Sure he can. It’s his brand.
Let’s get this thread back on topic.
From Faith’s Take:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJtRMFcbStvw5qWqSl1uuaObgkRFegxgz
When a post is clearly labeled something you dislike (Rifftrax, Mike, Mary Jo, Bridget) and which you’ve made perfectly clear that you dislike, then it would make sense to avoid it. Furthermore, it would be polite not to piss on what others here find enjoyable. For example, there’s one episode of MST3K that I loathe with a passion that passes all understanding. I have mentioned my dislike before so there’s no need to repeat it, especially because it’s several people’s favorite episode. Do I get their love of it? No, but I am truly happy for them that they’re finding the entertainment in it that I clearly cannot. It would be very rude of me to post over and over how much I hate it. Get it yet? You don’t have to post your hatred and holier-than-thou attitude on every thread.
And back on track of “wax museum” movies: tonight TCM is showing the wonderfully campy “House of Wax” starring Vincent Price, plus at least four other classic Price horror films. I plan to watch as many as possible, since we’re having icy cold rain and there will be few trick-or-treaters. Happy Halloween!
His missionary analogy makes his intentions clear:
He wants to force other people to agree with him.
Which he isn’t accomplishing and will probably never accomplish.
Which will drive from him any feelings of happiness.
Which is presumably exactly what he wants to happen, because he evidently can’t stand for anyone to be happy, not even himself.
As I’ve noted elsewhere, he appears to have the same basic mindset as a Sesame Street Grouch. He apparently hates the idea of people enjoying themselves.
Such are the impressions he has conveyed to me, anyway. But who cares what I think? ;-)
I’d love to see “House of Wax” in 3-D. “Terror in the Wax Museum” in 3-D…not so much.
Well, if you didn’t buy a 3DTV (like, ahem, smart people should have), House still looks good on Playstation VR headsets:
https://www.amazon.com/House-Wax-Blu-ray-Vincent-Price/dp/B00DQLQN3S/
The ping-pong paddles won’t freak you out, but Charles Bronson suddenly popping up out of nowhere to fight our hero will.
Ye gods, Price is all around tonight. There’s a bunch of his movies overnight on TCM, the MGM movie channel is running both Dr. Phibes movies, and ThisTV is running four of his movies, starting with “Master of the World”.
Heck yeah, Vincent Price!
My favorite VP joint? Diary of a Madman. It’s over-the-top (of course) and creepy, but it plays into the common fear that there may be a killer lurking inside us (supernatural or no).
SPOILERS FOR 55 YEAR OLD MOVIE AHEAD: I also find it interesting that they made the love interest (the beguiling Nancy Kovack) an unsympathetic character. Did she deserve her fate? No, but once you discover her true motivations, it makes Simon’s actions even more tragic (and to put a subtext in the movie that might not exist, perhaps not entirely motivated by supernatural forces).
Apropos of nothing, back in my college days I got to interview Mr. Price when he came to speak. As a junior reporter for the school paper I was expecting maybe five minutes. Instead he gave me over half an hour, and a more gracious, kind, knowledgeable, and funny man would be hard to find. When it got to the end and I asked what movie he’d done that was his favorite, he grinned hugely and said, without pausing a beat, “Theater of Blood.”
If that’s apropos of nothing, then this is the kind of thread derailment I like! He was truly one of a kind.
Definitely one of his best horror/suspense performances.
The illegitimate-child Third Dr. Phibes film. (Only in modern-day, and with Diana Rigg as the cool silent babe, only with dialogue.)
More “Reason to like Vincent Price” Trivia: According to insiders, one of the reasons Price had gotten into B-movies like “House of Wax” in the 50’s was after studios cancelled his contract, after he was put on a “gray-list” as possible subversive, which you would be if you stood up and supported the country getting involved in WWII.
At one point, his art expertise even got him an advisor position on a program to preserve Native art…The guy’s just COOL. :)
Hey, back in the Usenet rec.arts.tv.mst3k.misc days, Intellectual Film/Pop Culture-Buff Derailment was daily par for the course…Enjoy it.
Back then, we were the Right People Who Got Everything.