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Weekend Discussion Thread: UnMSTed MST Movies You OwnIt’s a simple one: Which MST3K films do you own in non-riffed (i.e., original) form? And what made you acquire them?
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I have a good handful but my “favorite” is Riding With Death.
I just love the sheer amount of people that have Un-MSTed movies, and yet admit that they haven’t watched it yet. I don’t have any, and I think that I would be in the same boat of not wanting to devote time to watching it.
Okay, maybe I would watch Time Chasers.
Hey Outerspace (#96) – I’ve got “Pod People” on VHS as “The Unearthling,” and on DVD as “Extraterrestrial Visitors.” The quality on the VHS is actually a little better than on the DVD, but both are nothing to write home about. The DVD is not hard to find, but I wish someone would care enough about it to clean it up.
( wow, I don’t get this one at all, either the activity being discussed or the number of people doing it )
Giant Spider Invasion
This film takes me back to 1975–my last year of college–for a lot of reasons: hair styles, the Dodge Dart at the junkyard, that charming little bar and restaurant, but mostly, its about the underpants.
The two I am most “proud” of are:Prince of Space and
Invasion of the Neptune Men.
I purchased them from Amazon as self punishment.
ometiklan – I have a couple of Starman dvds that I purchased from Something Weird Video. If you want to continue with your self punishment theme of Japanese superheroes who should wear more supportive underpants, I highly recommend them!
Space Mutiny was discovered by my friends and I some years before it was on MST. I saw the VHS at Best Buy for five or six dollars, and I bought it sight unseen simply because of the obvious recycled Battlestar Galactica effects on the back, and the presence of Reb Brown. Boggy Creek 2 was also a favorite of my brother and I for many years (actually the whole Boggy Creek series has been) before MST did it and we had an old former rental VHS copy we bought at a video store clearance sale. I had also seen Laserblast long before MST, but have never owned it in it’s original form. I own Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, Mitchell (which I proudly purchased at a truck stop along with the classic “Bronx Executioner” in the two for $5 DVD bin), Danger Diobolik.
Susan #100 WHERE THE HELL CAN I GET A DVD COPY OF OPERATION DOUBLE 007 (aka Operation Kid Brother, aka OK Connery)???!!!?!??!!!?!?! I REALLY WANT THAT UNCUT!!!!!
Oh and I also have the uncut version of “Side Hackers/Five The Hard Way”, but that is just a divx video that I downloaded somewhere.
None. I have seen Squirm on tv, the skinny redheaded woman is flat. MST3K really didn’t even need to edit that shower scene. :oops:
hey 99 you can get werewolf on netflix
Thanks Rob Willsey. :cool:
I’ll be doing that tomorrow.
None. I’m one of the few people who ever watched this show that was NOT a cheesy movie fan. I hated these movies….all of them. That’s why I’ve loved the show for all of the 19 years that I’ve been watching it. Somebody else saw what I saw in these movies, nothing! :lol:
This IS an easy one.
“Which MST3K films do you own in non-riffed (i.e., original) form?”
The Corpse Vanishes
Robot Monster (own in 3D and 2D versions)
The Slime People
Godzilla vs. Megalon
Appreciating Our Parents (short)
The Giant Gila Monster
Attack of the Giant Leeches
The Beatniks
Bride of the Monster
Eegah!
Teen-Age Strangler
Girls Town
The Violent Years
The Amazing Transparent Man
The Leech Woman
Gorgo
…”And what made you acquire them?”
In the famous words of Tom Servo, “I’m not sure I understand the question.”
I actually saw a copy of “Boggy Creek II The Legend Continues” at my local video store.
I recently purchased an uncut, restored copy of First Spaceship on Venus – DVD title is Silent Star.
The film is much more anti-nuclear and anti American in its original form, and I can see why the US release was cut so much.
Still, it’s an interesting film to watch. I was inspired to purchase it because of the wild sets.
I also have:
Bride of the Monster
Santa Claus vs. the Martians
All the Hercules films
The Brain That Wouldn’t Die – my all-time favorite!
I recently spied a copy of the DVD for Track of the Moonbeast, and my blood ran cold! I might have to buy it!
#108
I got my copy of Operation Double 007 from Ebay. There is some guy from Canada that sells copies of it. They are self-made copies and the quality of the print isn’t that good (the one used on MST3K is better). However, since it’s not officially available, it’s better than nothing.
Most of the unMSTed movies I own are ones I have a great affection for and I actually enjoy unMSTed. The exception would be Manos. I bought that one out of morbid curiousity. :lol:
On one birthday my dad had given me this DVD set of B movies which included The Brain That Wouldn’t Die and The Atomic Brain. I’ve never actually gotten around to watching them. The Brain That Wouldn’t Die is pure pain even when being riffed. As for The Atomic Brain, all it has going for it is the nude chicks held onto slabs with strategically placed straps.
Well, I’m out of the loop for this one since the only ones I own are the uncut versions that come with the MSTed versions from Vol. 1 + Hellcats and The Crawling Hand.
@Mark #113
It’s not like any of us think these movies are actually really good, and deserve to be appreciated on their own. I grew up my entire life “riffing” bad movies with my father and brother, long before MST was on. When we bought our first VCR we got 100 free rentals (rent one get one free) at the store, which also had a pretty large video rental section. We rented movies nearly every night, and it was almost always one movie we actually wanted to see, and one movie that looked absolutely horrible. A lot of times we wound up having more fun making fun of the horrible movie than watching the other one, so it became a quest for terrible movies.
So the reason I (and I’m sure many of the people here) really like having some of the unMSTed versions of the movies is mostly because I don’t always need other people’s riffing over bad movies to have a good time with them. I have far more terrible MST quality movies on DVD that were never actually on MST than I have DVDs of movies that were. I watch them with friends and family and we have at them ourselves. In fact with a movie like Boggy Creek 2, which was a favorite target of our mockery for years before MST did it, I think that the MST version is rather mediocre. I do think their version is funny, but I had so much more fun watching that movie unMSTed over the years before MST did it that their episode could never live up to those other viewings.
I don’t own it, but I did see “Ator: The Blade Master” several years before I saw “Cave Dwellers” on MST. And I enjoyed it.
I do own the first move “Ator: the Flying Eagle”… which is even more hilarious than the flashbacks you see in Cave Dwellers.
I have a suggestion for next weekend’s thread: Movies that have been featured on MST3K that are actually enjoyable to watch without the riffing.
MSTRaxx !
As weird as I think this thread is, it does resurrect something that I’ve been wondering about. Would it be conceivable, profitable, possible for BB et al. to sell synchable audio tracks of the riffing that could be played in conjunction with the unMSTed version of the film ? I know the cutting could screw the timing up but hey its the 21st Century, it shouldn’t be insoluble.
I have an enormous collection of fifties and sixties sci-fi flicks on VHS and DVD, and so I probably have every mstied movie that fits in that category. The wonderful thing about MST3K is that I love these movies in their unaltered version,(especially the AIP movies), but it’s just an added treat to see Joel/Mike and the bots skewer them as well. It’s really like having twice the enjoyment at half the cost… or something like that. I can still remember vividly the day “Indestructible Man” debuted back in 1992 I think it was. I couldn’t wait for it to finally come on! And they trashed it thoroughly, and it was one of my favorites as a kid!
The movies I can think of off the top of my head are:
The Crawling Eye
Killer Shrews
This island Earth
The Legend of Boogy Creek II
I found The Crawling Eye at wal-mart for 4 dollars. This Island Earth was 7 at borders and I found Boogy Creek II at Rite Aid during Halloween one year for 2 dollars.
I can bring myself to watch Boogy Creek II without the MST gang……I might not survive.
I also forgot to mention that I have an Ed Wood DVD collection that contains all his movies unaltered.
*Whew* If I read all of the previous posts first, I’d have to wait ’till next weekend, so please forgive any redundancies:
Have 2 of those 50 movie DVD packs, but can’t remember which MSTed films are on them: ‘Nightmare Worlds’ and ‘Drive-In Classics’. (BTW, the former’s version of “Alien Contamination” is the edited, R-rated cut; Euro-gore fans BEWARE!)
Have VHS of Mitchell with bad drawing of him and Linda hanging in mid-air. Same store had an old VHS of “Time Walker” (Being From Another Planet), but it disappeared. Could still be buried in their For Sale shelves, it’s a messy old store. Anyway, I have a policy of not paying money to see the regular version of anything the Brains suffered throught 10 screenings of until I’ve seen the actual ep, and since I didn’t have cable in the CC era, that’s quite a burden. “Robot Holocaust” and “Warrior of the Lost World” were especially tempting in rental stores, since those Mad-Max cash-ins are likely among the last eps we’ll ever see on DVD.
Accidentally violated that policy with “Legend of the Dinosaur”, since it has about half-a-dozen titles. Once saw it referenced as “The Chinese Legend of Dinosaurs and Monster-Birds”, although ‘The Chinese’ may have denoted its country of origin rather than part of the name.
Oh, and the FVI bits someone mentioned were those jerky-half-motion into/outros for “Cave Dwellers” and “Pod People”, right? While I’d like to know what movie they used for the Cav-e Dwellers credits, I do have a VHS of the one used for Pod People: It’s called “Galaxy Invader”, and was hard to find for a while due to being made from embezzled funds. I gotta’ tell ya, I wasn’t worth the felony. You can find it in some of those bargain basement DVD packs, but if you have any curiosity, please, IGNORE IT! DO NOT EVER WATCH “GALAXY INVADER”! This is coming from someone who gladly sat through not only uncut Mitchell, but relishes completely silent (without even music) movies: AVOID AT ALL COSTS! “Galaxy Invader” is so nihilistic and pointless, it makes MANOS look like a labored study of the human spirit in the face of inescapable doom. Even the Season 4 Brains + Josh and Bill couldn’t have made this any fun whatsoever. Watching it may diminish your enjoyment of any future viewings of Trumpy and friends, so just enjoy J&TB’s amused bafflement of what little you see there, and let your imagination construct what you think you missed: you’ll come up with something 100X better than the actual movie. It’s made me think twice about actually seeing any movie Videohound gives a *WOOF!* to.
Well, they also give a *WOOF!* to “THE PUMAMAN”, which I could’ve rented the uncut VHS of. Passed it up, but like “Mitchell”, its box art amusingly shows nothing from the acutal movie: Just a cat sihlouette running past the Aztec mask, and a tagline asking, “Can…Mankind…Be Saved?”
For that matter, have had a VHS 2-pack of “Killers From Space” with “Monster From Green Hell” for 10 years, neither of which I’ve ever watched. I’ve already gotten too far off-topic though.
Oh, and I have that recent 4-pack of DVDs from that late, great maestro of the midway, Ray Dennis Steckler. This of course includes “The Incredibly Strange Creature Who Stopped Living And Became Mixed-Up Zombies”. Haven’t gotten around to watching any of ’em. Gotta’ rent as much as possible before that next video store disappears and takes the last known copy of that snuff film or Philippino women-in-prison movie with it. MY DVDs can wait…
This will probably show how much of a movie buff I’ve been since the foruth grade.
On a mixture of VHS and DVD.
Green Slime
Legend of Dinosaurs
All the Gamera films (both the Sandy Frank editions, ADV, and AIP versions)
The Crawling Eye
The Robot Vs. The Aztec Mummy
Robot Monster
The Slime People
The Black Scorpion
The Phantom Creeps
Godzilla Vs. Megalon ( box art with Godzilla and Megalon fighting on the Twin Towers)
Godzilla vs. Sea Monster
Amazing Colossal Man
It Conquered The World
Earth Vs. Spider
War of the Colossal Beast
Santa Claus Conquers The Matians
The Giant Gila Monster
Teenagers from Outer Space
Attack of the Giant Leeches
The Killer Shrews
The Magic Sword
Bride of the Monster
Swamp Diamonds
Eegah
The Brain that Wouldn’t die
The Beginning of The End
Village of the Giants
The Creeping Terror
The Beast of Yucca Flats
Night of the Blood Beast
This Island Earth
Revenge of the Creature
Deadly Mantis
She Creature
I was a Teenage Werewolf
Phantom Planet
Space Children
Gorgo
The Screaming Skull
DIABOLIK!
I’m currently trying to track down a copy of the dvd release of Prince of Space and Invasion of the Neptune Men.
You can still get Prince of Space/Invasion of the Neptune Men on Amazon.
@120: “It’s not like any of us think these movies are actually really good, and deserve to be appreciated on their own.”
I do. Well, maybe not the “really good” part, but I beleive they deserve to be appreciated on their own. They may have problems, they may not succeed in the way they intended, but they are works of art. People put effort into them (well many of them, anyway) and that effort deserves to be appreciated. Anytime someone tries to create something, it should be appreciated, even if it fails. Not everyone has the guts to try, let alone succeed, in getting a film made. It’s a difficult job and my hat’s off to anyone who does it. Yes, even Harold P. Warren.
I rent unmsted movies…
It’s safer.
The Crawling Eye
The Black Scorpion
Moon Zero Two
Lost Continent
Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster
The Deadly Mantis
I bought “The Crawling Eye” after seeing the MSTed version. I thought it was a pretty creepy B movie with lots of atmosphere, even thought the effects left something to be desired. I bought “The Black Scorpion” long before I saw it MSTed because I’m a fan of stop-motion animation, and one of the DVD’s bonus features is the opening scenes from “The Animal World” (I’m also a dinosaur fan). The animation here is quite good, it’s just unfortunate that they ran out of budget, necessitating those cheesy-looking black silhouettes and the seemingly endless repetition of the helicopter scene during the final battle. I bought “Moon Zero Two” only because it happened to be part of a double feature DVD which I bought for “When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth”, again because I’m a stop-motion and dinosaur fan. I haven’t watched the unMSTed “Moon Zero Two” yet, and I may never watch it. I bought “Lost Continent” for the stop-motion dinosaurs, and also for the novelty of seeing Ward Cleaver as a scientist/adventurer. I bought “Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster because I’m a Godzilla fan, even though I admit most of the Godzilla movies are very cheesy, this one included. “The Deadly Mantis” came in a bundle with a few other B-movies, one of which was an extremely cheesy Lost World picture that I was interested in owning.
Does anyone know where to find a “clean” copy of Night Train to Mundo Fine (AKA Red Zone Cuba). I’d like to complete my collected works of Coleman Francis. It was released on VHS at some point as part of the “Tony Cardoza Classics” (seriously), but I have not been able to find it on DVD. Any ideas?
Ok, here we go. The Green Slime, All the Gamera movies, Phase IV, Time of the Apes, The Crawling Eye, Robot vs The Aztec Mummy, The Crawling Hand, Robot Monster, The Slime People, The Hellcats, All Godzilla movies, Pod People, The Amazing Colossal Man, It Conquered the World, Earth vs the Spider, Teenage Caveman, Viking Women vs the Sea Serpent, War of the Colossal Beast, Santa Clause Conquers the Martians, The Giant Gila Monster, Teenagers from Outer Space, Attack of the Giant Leeches, The Killer Shrews, Attack of the Eye Creatures, Monster A-Go-Go, Bride of the Monster, Manos-The Hands of Fate, Eegah!, The Brain that Wouldn’t Die, Wild Wild World of Batwoman, Beginning of the End, The Atomic Brain, Santa Claus, Village of the Giants, Zombie Nightmare, The Creeping Terror, The Violent Years, The Sinister Urge, The Beast of Yucca Flats, Night of the Blood Beast, Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell, The Incredible Melting Man, Escape 2000, Laserblast, Revenge of the Creature, The Mole People, The She Creature, I was a Teenage Werewolf, The Giant Spider Invasion, The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-up Zombies, Prince of Space, Horror of Party Beach, Hobgoblins, Gorgo, Horrors of Spider Island, and Squirm. I bought them because I just love bad movies. lol The only ones I hadn’t seen and bought before they aired on MST3K were The Hellcats and Manos-The Hands of Fate. Now if I could only find an uncut copy of The Sidehackers.
Dr. Batch says:
January 31st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
#9: that is not Tony Dow in Squirm.
Sadly, yes it is. He changed his name briefly to R.A. Dow (the “A” stands for Anthony) to disassociate himself from the Leave It To Beaver character.
NOW YOU GON’ BE DA WORMFACE!
“Sadly, yes it is. He changed his name briefly to R.A. Dow (the “A” stands for Anthony) to disassociate himself from the Leave It To Beaver character.”
No, it isn’t. Here’s a picture of Tony:
http://www.speaking.com/speakers/tonydow.html
Still basically looks the same. And *nothing* like R.A. Dow.
the only uncut ones i have is a few that rhino released on dvd as a bonus on their MSTied movies…
Beginning of the End
Eegah
some others… i forget.
I have grabbed a couple of these whenever possible mainly due to the famous incident where Sci-Fi showed the unedited / MST3K version of one of the movies that the gang already handled.
Those SHOUT! FACTORY double packs of Elvira Presents have many of the shows on them but contain, thus far, half of the CT shows produced. Frankenstein’s Castle of Freaks and Legacy of Blood are just two of the ones that got packaged as part of her program. Breast Blimp not included.
IMDB.com has two seperate biographies for both actors (well, one actor and the guy in Squirm).
The Amazing Transparent Man – on Strange Tales, one of those public domain collections.
Godzilla vs Megalon – cheapie VHS copy.
Hercules Against The Moon Men – cheapie VHS copy.
The Incredible Melting Man – recorded.
Marooned – recorded, unwatched, the Film Ventures version was tedious enough.
Night of the Blood Beast – Strange Tales collection.
Squirm – recorded; allowed me to finally see what happened to Momma, and what I swear was a set-up for the sequal, with Roger biting Antique-Man’s ankle.
War of the Monsters – Strange Tales, the alternate better dub of Gamera vs Barugon.
Strange Tales also has Doomsday Machine – when I heard CT was doing I was like “Hell yeah, rip that turkey!” My least favorite on that collection. It also has Prisoners of the Lost Universe, starring Richard Hatch and John Saxon, which is the movie Film Ventures got the opening sequance for Stranded In Space from. I also bought a small collection called “Killers Collection” which includes Arch Hall Jr.’s “The Sadist”.
Santa Claus Conquers the Martians was a goofy family favorite long before I ever purchased the MST version that came in the Essentials set.
The Violent Years
Bride of the Monster
Robot Monster
I have a Gamera VHS I bought off someone at work for $1 – haggled down from $2 :). Still haven’t watched it years later.
Sampo, you’ve done it again….come up with a weekend thread that’s close to my heart! :lol:
My unMSTied versions include “Marooned” (aka “Space Travelers”) on vhs, Gamera vs. Barugon (both full version and MST3K version from a guy on ebay who’s a BIG mstie and has almost every episode on dvd-r), “The Beatniks” (with “Wild Guitar”), both the Santa Claus movies, as well as all the Rhino releases that include the original films.
To #104: the reason so many of us do this is probably because we have a curiousity about certain movies being riffed; what was cut out, why it was cut, etc. For myself, I thought I was the only one who had somewhat of an obsession with some of these pieces of dreck. As it turns out, I seem to have alot less than others! (although I’m constantly looking at places such as rental stores, antique & collectible shops, and Goodwill to find some of these movies. Yes, I admit, I’m that insane about the show!) It all comes down to morbid curiousity, at least that’s how I look at it.
Pretty much every single one of the ones that has a sci-fi/horror/monster element to them. I collect this sort of movie anyway – even the bad ones, so had many of them before I ever saw MST3k.
You can add “Village of the Giants” and “Squirm” to that list, thanks to my favorite store, Newbury Comics! Both well under $10, too.
I’m a big fan of the C-Movies, so I have “Robot Monster” and “The Beast of Yucca Flats” even though I haven’t seen the MST3K episodes yet. I also have “The Creeping Terror,” “Bloodlust!” “Catalina Caper,” and “The Skydivers” in their uncut form on the first box set. Yeah! :grin: